Looking to buy a new 4 door RWD car that's DIY friendly Suggestions?
#1
Intermediate
Thread Starter
Looking to buy a new 4 door RWD car that's DIY friendly Suggestions?
I'm looking to buy a new sedan that has a RWD configuration. It has to be reliable and DIY friendly.
I have a Lexus that I do all the repairs myself. After being a long time hardcore Lexus fan, it died down on me slowly year after year after all their cars have that new ugly grille. So therefore, I'm shopping another brand.
I was looking at Acura, but none of their models offer RWD.
What are other car brands and models that offer a sedan with RWD configuration? No German cars please, they are so full of parts and electronics that break easily (aside from Porsche's Panamera, but that car looks bulky from the back).
I have a Lexus that I do all the repairs myself. After being a long time hardcore Lexus fan, it died down on me slowly year after year after all their cars have that new ugly grille. So therefore, I'm shopping another brand.
I was looking at Acura, but none of their models offer RWD.
What are other car brands and models that offer a sedan with RWD configuration? No German cars please, they are so full of parts and electronics that break easily (aside from Porsche's Panamera, but that car looks bulky from the back).
#2
Lexus Fanatic
I'm looking to buy a new sedan that has a RWD configuration. It has to be reliable and DIY friendly.
I have a Lexus that I do all the repairs myself. After being a long time hardcore Lexus fan, it died down on me slowly year after year after all their cars have that new ugly grille. So therefore, I'm shopping another brand.
I was looking at Acura, but none of their models offer RWD.
What are other car brands and models that offer a sedan with RWD configuration? No German cars please, they are so full of parts and electronics that break easily (aside from Porsche's Panamera, but that car looks bulky from the back).
I have a Lexus that I do all the repairs myself. After being a long time hardcore Lexus fan, it died down on me slowly year after year after all their cars have that new ugly grille. So therefore, I'm shopping another brand.
I was looking at Acura, but none of their models offer RWD.
What are other car brands and models that offer a sedan with RWD configuration? No German cars please, they are so full of parts and electronics that break easily (aside from Porsche's Panamera, but that car looks bulky from the back).
#3
Lexus Test Driver
Today's new cars aren't really meant to be a DIY thing. That comes after years of ownership, where things slowly start failing and need fixing. If you want to tinker, maybe you mean "modding?" If that's the case, just about any new car can be modded. Just be prepared to risk losing your warranty and diminish resale value. If reliability is your thing, stick with the asian brands. From what I gather, you might be better off with a used car. One that can be fixed up a bit or rehabbed. An older Lexus would be ideal, as they are reliable, RWD, and easy to find.
#4
Lexus Champion
Take a look at the Chevy SS. RWD, reliable Australian (Holden) build-quality, plenty of power. Not as powerful as the SRT Dodge/Chrysler sedans, or as brightly-painted, but IMO better-built. Might have to go to a larger Chevy shop to find one, though......only a limited number are built.
Last edited by bagwell; 07-25-17 at 03:35 AM.
#5
Lexus Test Driver
Dodge Charger, Cadillac ATS/CTS/CT6, Infiniti Q50/70, Genesis.
All the above cars are actually LESS reliable than some of the Germans imo.
F30 335/340i are pretty reliable and you can get warranty for piece of mind.
All the above cars are actually LESS reliable than some of the Germans imo.
F30 335/340i are pretty reliable and you can get warranty for piece of mind.
#6
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I would suggest the Infiniti q50. It's great looking and seemingly reliable. I'm sure some of the q50s parts are shared by its more pedestrian parent, Nissan.
I would also suggest the Volvo s90. I know, I know -- the engine in the s90 is turbocharged and supercharged but that just makes something that pops up the more challenging (read: fun) to fix. The s90 is also super beautiful inside and out.
edit: the s90 comes in an awd configuration which is just as great as rwd!
I would also suggest the Volvo s90. I know, I know -- the engine in the s90 is turbocharged and supercharged but that just makes something that pops up the more challenging (read: fun) to fix. The s90 is also super beautiful inside and out.
edit: the s90 comes in an awd configuration which is just as great as rwd!
Last edited by davyjordi; 07-25-17 at 05:28 AM.
#7
Lexus Fanatic
Are the 335 and 340 two different motors, namely the N55 and B58? There's a lot of support for the N54 and N55's on the BMW forums, easy to get fair deals on OE and OEM parts. Some of the components do break sooner than one would think, but all the info is out there on how to fix. Heck I redid my ABS/DSC pump myself which would have been $4,200 at the dealership, thanks to the tons of info out there. Pretty sure the N54 can put out 340 HP at the wheels (implies maybe 385 HP at the crank), with a $500 tune (not for me though)....
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#8
Lexus Test Driver
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Yes the motors are very different.
335i = N54, or newer N55
340i = B58
N54 had fuel pump issues which BMW extended the warranty for I believe.
N55 is very reliable and I have not had any issue with mine in my 535i.
Just to add the M2 still uses the N55 engine while the M240i went to B58.
BMW inline 6s are all pretty bulletproof, the V8 (N63) i would stay away from.
Yes the motors are very different.
335i = N54, or newer N55
340i = B58
N54 had fuel pump issues which BMW extended the warranty for I believe.
N55 is very reliable and I have not had any issue with mine in my 535i.
Just to add the M2 still uses the N55 engine while the M240i went to B58.
BMW inline 6s are all pretty bulletproof, the V8 (N63) i would stay away from.
Last edited by RNM GS3; 07-25-17 at 06:21 AM.
#9
Lexus Champion
My neighbor bought one of these a few months ago, black/black. Dealer and GM were offering BIG discounts. I agree, nice car and it does sound great. He wanted to get one before they go away.
#10
Lexus Fanatic
The Q50 is a nice car, but I'd avoid the all-electronic Direct-Adaptive-Steering option. It supposedly has a mechanical-linkage back-up for an emergency, in case the electronics fail, but I'm not sure I'd trust it....too risky. When I did my Q50 review and test-drive several years ago, I picked a conventional-steer sample, without that option.
#11
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I would suggest the Infiniti q50. It's great looking and seemingly reliable. I'm sure some of the q50s parts are shared by its more pedestrian parent, Nissan.
I would also suggest the Volvo s90. I know, I know -- the engine in the s90 is turbocharged and supercharged but that just makes something that pops up the more challenging (read: fun) to fix. The s90 is also super beautiful inside and out.
edit: the s90 comes in an awd configuration which is just as great as rwd!
I would also suggest the Volvo s90. I know, I know -- the engine in the s90 is turbocharged and supercharged but that just makes something that pops up the more challenging (read: fun) to fix. The s90 is also super beautiful inside and out.
edit: the s90 comes in an awd configuration which is just as great as rwd!
The Q50 is a nice car, but I'd avoid the all-electronic Direct-Adaptive-Steering option. It supposedly has a mechanical-linkage back-up for an emergency, in case the electronics fail, but I'm not sure I'd trust it....too risky. When I did my Q50 review and test-drive several years ago, I picked a conventional-steer sample, without that option.
#12
Lexus Champion
As an engineer working in aerospace, we do things with fly-by-wire that have much higher stakes than steer-by-wire. I would avoid DAS because I don't like the feel of it, not because of a perceived safety risk. There is a back-up system in place, and I haven't read of any DAS failures over the past 4 years or so that it's been out. Electronics, when done correctly, can be very reliable.
#13
As an engineer working in aerospace, we do things with fly-by-wire that have much higher stakes than steer-by-wire. I would avoid DAS because I don't like the feel of it, not because of a perceived safety risk. There is a back-up system in place, and I haven't read of any DAS failures over the past 4 years or so that it's been out. Electronics, when done correctly, can be very reliable.
#14
Lexus Fanatic
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Yes the motors are very different.
335i = N54, or newer N55
340i = B58
N54 had fuel pump issues which BMW extended the warranty for I believe.
N55 is very reliable and I have not had any issue with mine in my 535i.
Just to add the M2 still uses the N55 engine while the M240i went to B58.
BMW inline 6s are all pretty bulletproof, the V8 (N63) i would stay away from.
Yes the motors are very different.
335i = N54, or newer N55
340i = B58
N54 had fuel pump issues which BMW extended the warranty for I believe.
N55 is very reliable and I have not had any issue with mine in my 535i.
Just to add the M2 still uses the N55 engine while the M240i went to B58.
BMW inline 6s are all pretty bulletproof, the V8 (N63) i would stay away from.
Anyhow, my only repair in 10 years that cost more than $200 is the ABS pump, and yes, it would have been $4,200 at the dealer, but DIY is around $250 if you have all the tools and software. I did not, so my cost was just under $500. This is not particular to the N54/55, it's the E9x 3 series, meaning 328's as well. Not sure about the 128/135, probably.
Although the M2 is not a "real M" if you get crazy about M history/heritage (C430? Do you even AMG, bro? that was a funny shirt), it kind of is. Sales tells the real story. Ask my cousin's wife what she thinks about the V8, she had a CPO X5 4.8, which was always back at the dealer and it got old very fast (car was 3 y.o.).....
Problem with today's cars is the steering, it's just so sub par imho. I guess I'm stubborn and refuse to say well that's all we got (buddy just texted me how awful it is on the brand new A4 loaner he picked up today, and he's comparing it to his wife's Q5)...