SC300Es

Why do I feel like there may be more to this than when the video starts? There is nobody in front of that car that he would need to go into the HOV lane at that speed.

With that said, the driver's move almost seems like that instant reaction when we make moves without thinking. Doesn't make it right but that's what it seems like.

Ed

GS3Tek

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There are too many stupid idiots (redundant) on the road that nothing is new anymore.

That being said, the darwin-award winner sentra driver also endangered his/her passenger(s).

SW17LS

In kind. Trying to run someone over with a car because they kicked your car is not "responding in kind". Neither is shooting somebody because they slapped you, that was the point.

In any event I was taught that two wrongs don't make a right.

SW17LS

When dealing with a motorcycle...essentially this amounts to trying to kill them.

Coleroad

In high traffic areas like this, drivers make bad moves all day long. It was illegal for the car to enter across the solid yellow line. When the car did. The cyclist didn't even have to put the brakes on. He actually sped up to get beside him, and kick the car. So what was just a illegal lane change turned into this. First the cyclist endangered himself way more than the car to start with, by pulling up beside, and kicking. Then the car escalated it further by swerving. Two A's that can't control their tempers behind the wheel. Neither one needs to be driving on the road. If either one of them had controlled their emotions, no ones life would have been put in danger. One A usually means close call. Two A's together usually ends bad. I get how frustrating it is when people drive stupid, but you have to control your emotions.

FastFord

Having ridden bikes for years, I was cut off all the time. It got to a point that I thought many people did not see me, or hear me with some of the bikes.

Never would I try to kick a car while moving. I might want to, but would never endanger someone for being careless or daydreaming. Nor would I chance hurting myself. Ride away and enjoy the fact you didn't get wiped out by some car. Regardless if the Sentra cut him off or not, the riders reaction is completely irresponsible.

His actions initiated the reaction and he left the scene. Guilty

Glad no one was seriously injured.

ragingf80

Exactly. Former rider here (for a very short time), and I echo this sentiment. Being an aggressive rider on the road will get you killed. No one sees you, and anyone can kill you.

mmarshall

The driver is indeed the direct cause, but the incident, at least from the video, seems to have started with the biker. Two wrongs don't make a right. I partly, but don't totally, agree with your position.

Anyhow, we can debate all day about who is at fault.....I just hope that no one got seriously hurt or killed, especially in that vehicle that overturned.

mmarshall

Bingo. +1.

Certanly hope that was the case. Sometimes, of course, delayed-reaction injuries can set in.

EXE46

The crappy sentra driver is at fault for crossing into the biker's lane; then attempting manslaughter with his crap-mobile and losing control. Even how he lost control shows how much of a lousy driver he is... Hopefully the moron learns a lesson.


Ps. Biker should be cited for reckless driving; however, the sentra driver's license should be revoked permanently.

mmarshall

Well, one of those lessons learned (besides the obvious one in controlling one's temper) is that a Sentra, though not the worst-handling vehicle on the market by any means, is a long way from a Mazda Miata in the tossability department.


Unless the biker willingly turns himself in (which I doubt will happen, unless his conscience starts bothering him), there's probably no way to identify him, since he got away. The video-resolution isn't good enough to pick up the motorcycle's license-plate.

Toys4RJill

The Sentra driver is a dumb crazy idiot. But the biker is a dumber stupid idiot-. Who tries to kick the door a moving car while driving a motorcycle?

LeX2K

Cars ahead of the accident may have had dash cams. The biker should have stopped at most he'd get a ticket for reckless driving or some other minor thing. Now if he's caught they'll add fleeing the scene of an accident and who knows what else.

Fizzboy7

The story unfolded way before the camera rolled. Most likely, the biker tried passing in the carpool lane and the Sentra didn't like it. This happens every five minutes on every major highway. People are startled by bikers coming up quick and making a bunch of noise at the last second. Sentra then retaliated to all that by getting too close to the biker. Biker doesn't like that, then kicks Sentra. Rest is on film. BOTH ARE STUPID. And the biker is the luckiest guy on earth, having kicked a car at freeway speeds, avoid tipping over after getting side-swiped by an auto, completely avoided an out of control car crashing right in front of him, and ran over a debris and liquid field. That guy should be playing the lottery right now.
This happened in my neighborhood and we have all been talking about it. The other lesson here no one is mentioning is what the Escalade driver did.... or did NOT do. He drove right into a major hazard without braking. Very bad move. He could have avoided all this if he looked ahead and saw what was going on. Note the brakelights never went on until the Sentra slammed into him and note how the Kia driver broke and avoided it all. Always need to be paying attention and looking ahead. Also of note here is the high hazard of driving a truck and SUV. Nine times out of ten, they are the ones on their roof after a collision. I will not be owning one, even with today's safety systems. You cannot defy the laws of physics.

SNiiP3R

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For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. I blame the biker for starting the mess.