Test drove a new 2018 Honda Odyssey today! Thoughts vs Sedona and Pacifica
05-26-17, 05:56 AM
#16
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Oh yeah, powertrain feels much better than the Sedona, the Pacifica did as well. Much snappier and more responsive. No way I'd get another Sedona with these two out there.
I would never choose a Minivan except out of necessity. With one kid, or even two of different ages, but with young twins nothing holds as much stuff as a Minivan, is as easy to load kids in and out of as a Minivan. No SUV or crossover would work as well for us, we would struggle with space and room, and getting both kids in and out of it, especially when they were in infant seats, forget it. Nothing seats 3 rows as comfortably either. It's a necessary appliance for us. Sort of like worrying about the "image" your stroller conveys, and choosing one that isn't convenient because it looks better. Sure, people do I guess but come on.
This van will be the last van and then we'll go back to an SUV.
I would never choose a Minivan except out of necessity. With one kid, or even two of different ages, but with young twins nothing holds as much stuff as a Minivan, is as easy to load kids in and out of as a Minivan. No SUV or crossover would work as well for us, we would struggle with space and room, and getting both kids in and out of it, especially when they were in infant seats, forget it. Nothing seats 3 rows as comfortably either. It's a necessary appliance for us. Sort of like worrying about the "image" your stroller conveys, and choosing one that isn't convenient because it looks better. Sure, people do I guess but come on.
This van will be the last van and then we'll go back to an SUV.
p.s. I always thought that about folks who have Maclaren strollers, why?? so unuseful and expensive
05-26-17, 06:17 AM
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And the MPV didn't have sliding doors! Very useful. Loading kids in a crowded parking lot with traditional doors sucks.
Yeah luckily my wife doesn't care about "mommy image items". It's one thing if a stroller is expensive AND uniquely functional or cool.
Yeah luckily my wife doesn't care about "mommy image items". It's one thing if a stroller is expensive AND uniquely functional or cool.
05-26-17, 07:17 AM
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Agreed from a clearance/convienence point of view, but power-sliding doors have been one of the reliability weak points in minivans. While, of course, not all of them will fail, or fail early, in general, the old-fashioned, elbow-grease, push-to-slide ones are more reliable, with no electric motors or sensors to fail. Early-generation Odysseys, in particular, used outsourced hardware for the power-sliders that proved very unreliable, with improvements after Honda started doing their own.
05-26-17, 07:56 AM
#19
Given the choice, you would put your family in a cryslur over a Honda?
After that saddening thought, the only thing that is keeping me together today is that my veeva sytems shares are enjoying a nice pop due to another great quarter
After that saddening thought, the only thing that is keeping me together today is that my veeva sytems shares are enjoying a nice pop due to another great quarter
05-26-17, 09:07 AM
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I have no problem leasing a Chrysler. I've had two Jeeps in the past 6 years. Know plenty of people with Jeeps and even Pacificas. If I were buying one to put 100k miles on I'd pay the extra $5k for the Honda, but to pay $7,500 more to just lease one for 3 years? No.
05-26-17, 09:51 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
I have no problem leasing a Chrysler. I've had two Jeeps in the past 6 years. Know plenty of people with Jeeps and even Pacificas. If I were buying one to put 100k miles on I'd pay the extra $5k for the Honda, but to pay $7,500 more to just lease one for 3 years? No.
05-26-17, 10:06 AM
#22
But for people lease, like me and Steve, just whatever meets our needs better, and what we like better. Reliability is not a concern at all, any car nowadays are built way better than the old days, that usually don't break for the first 30000-40000 miles.
05-26-17, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
We put 100k miles in 4 years on our Odyssey. Lots of family road trips. Leasing wasn't an option. Haha.
Over 2 years and it just rolled over 20k! It's because my wife doesn't commute and it just gets driven around town and on trips.
05-26-17, 11:00 AM
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I way overbought the miles, 15k, won't get that on the next one!
05-26-17, 01:04 PM
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I mentioned this in another post but here in Dallas, the Honda dealers here are notorious for gouging; when the 2016 Pilot's rolled out they were selling the Touring Elite's for $8k ABOVE MSRP....obviously this included upgraded rims, all sorts of leather treatment, window tinting, nitrogen etc etc....and would not budge to get those accessories off. The best deal I was able to find in fact was @ MSRP for special orders. i suspect the same will take place with the new Odyssey's...
My wife doesn't like the "matchy matchy" look that the Odyssey has compared to the Pilot, CRV and Ridgeline.....that said, she has ruled out a minivan altogether for future family needs.
As a side note, I read in Car & Driver or Motortrend that most of Toyota's engineering resources were spent on the 2018 Camry (and the new Prius), that the Sienna would get a new revamp in 2019 (hopefully with the age-old Sequoia, Tundra + the Avalon could use a little love...)
My wife doesn't like the "matchy matchy" look that the Odyssey has compared to the Pilot, CRV and Ridgeline.....that said, she has ruled out a minivan altogether for future family needs.
As a side note, I read in Car & Driver or Motortrend that most of Toyota's engineering resources were spent on the 2018 Camry (and the new Prius), that the Sienna would get a new revamp in 2019 (hopefully with the age-old Sequoia, Tundra + the Avalon could use a little love...)
05-26-17, 01:25 PM
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how would you say it compares to a Sienna?
05-26-17, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
how would you say it compares to a Sienna?
05-26-17, 05:42 PM
#29
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Do you think she's just bowing to the anti-minivan stereotype so commonly seen in the auto press and among enthusiasts? I've posted a number of times on what a bunch of nonsense I think that stereotype is.
05-26-17, 06:36 PM
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