(RUMOR Japanese Magazine has article that says) Lexus is canceling the GS line.
03-15-17, 01:17 PM
#1
(RUMOR Japanese Magazine has article that says) Lexus is canceling the GS line.
https://lexusenthusiast.com/2017/03/...-the-gs-sedan/
According to the January issue of Japanese magazine MAG-X, the Lexus GS may be cancelled after the current generation. Here is a translation courtesy of Lexus Enthusiast member White Beach, though I should point out that this rumor is unsubstantiated and possibly untrue:
And this time again we have the news about the development freeze of the vehicle of TMC. Our scoop department found out that TMC decided to suspend the development of the next generation Lexus GS…But after the close consideration/examination of its image and positioning in the lineup, TMC came to a conclusion that the GS doesn’t/won’t play a desired role in the lineup.
In fact, it is the next generation LS that caused TMC to make this decision. As we have reported, next gen LS has its engine down-sized; the V8 engine to the V6 engine. This means that both the LS and the GS have V6 engine, which causes product overlap in the Lexus’ own lineup. So TMC decided to kick the GS out of the lineup and to fulfill the demand of the customer looking for a large sedan with the LS alone.
When turning to the whole Lexus lineup, all new UX crossover is waiting its debut, so it is possible that they are now sorting out its lineup (in order to concentrate its resources on the new model). We also hear the rumor that TMS is trying to figure out whether it is possible to produce another all new model in exchange for the GS, so there is some chance that they will bring the new vehicle which has a completely new approach/concept.
The next generation GS were planned to debut in 2018, so at least Lexus won’t drop the existing model until 2018. It’s possible that Lexus will extend its model cycle, but it is now unlikely that we will see the next generation GS.
And this time again we have the news about the development freeze of the vehicle of TMC. Our scoop department found out that TMC decided to suspend the development of the next generation Lexus GS…But after the close consideration/examination of its image and positioning in the lineup, TMC came to a conclusion that the GS doesn’t/won’t play a desired role in the lineup.
In fact, it is the next generation LS that caused TMC to make this decision. As we have reported, next gen LS has its engine down-sized; the V8 engine to the V6 engine. This means that both the LS and the GS have V6 engine, which causes product overlap in the Lexus’ own lineup. So TMC decided to kick the GS out of the lineup and to fulfill the demand of the customer looking for a large sedan with the LS alone.
When turning to the whole Lexus lineup, all new UX crossover is waiting its debut, so it is possible that they are now sorting out its lineup (in order to concentrate its resources on the new model). We also hear the rumor that TMS is trying to figure out whether it is possible to produce another all new model in exchange for the GS, so there is some chance that they will bring the new vehicle which has a completely new approach/concept.
The next generation GS were planned to debut in 2018, so at least Lexus won’t drop the existing model until 2018. It’s possible that Lexus will extend its model cycle, but it is now unlikely that we will see the next generation GS.
Last edited by DaveGS4; 03-15-17 at 07:34 PM.
03-15-17, 01:19 PM
#2
Lexus Champion
Lexus Enthusiast makes it pretty clear it's only a rumor and not a confirmation.
The logic here of two V6 sedans being an issue makes me skeptical of this translated article. I'll wait for something official from Toyota/Lexus.
According to the January issue of Japanese magazine MAG-X, the Lexus GS may be cancelled after the current generation. Here is a translation courtesy of Lexus Enthusiast member White Beach, though I should point out that this rumor is unsubstantiated and possibly untrue:
Last edited by JDR76; 03-15-17 at 03:04 PM.
03-15-17, 02:23 PM
#6
Lexus Fanatic
I highly doubt the GS is going to be canceled. The ES is about the same size but is for the North American market while the GS is for the entire world. Those are a lot of markets available outside the US.. Perhaps cancelling imports to the United States is a possibility.
As for the platform, I thought the whole new Lexus RWD platform was designed to make it easy to make more models off it.
As for the platform, I thought the whole new Lexus RWD platform was designed to make it easy to make more models off it.
03-15-17, 02:45 PM
#7
Take all these 'GS getting canceled rumors' with a grain of salt..
- Lexus has the new scalable Global Architecture Luxury (GAL) platform debuted on the LC and LS. Won't be the last models to use the platform.
- Afraid of overlap?! the 4th generation GS is 191in and the 5th generation LS is 206in.. hahaha yeah sure no room..
- Afraid of only V6 engines? ... 540i.. 740i..
- Mentioned above, some markets don't have both ES and GS
- Let's make the GS F then dump it.. right..
- Lexus has the new scalable Global Architecture Luxury (GAL) platform debuted on the LC and LS. Won't be the last models to use the platform.
- Afraid of overlap?! the 4th generation GS is 191in and the 5th generation LS is 206in.. hahaha yeah sure no room..
- Afraid of only V6 engines? ... 540i.. 740i..
- Mentioned above, some markets don't have both ES and GS
- Let's make the GS F then dump it.. right..
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03-15-17, 03:15 PM
#9
The IS F was a skunkworks project and the IS was never meant to have a V8. It was shoehorned in. The next IS F will utilize a version of the F1 derived mill going into the LS500. As for the GS, I posted a picture of the 2013 GS engine bay and stated a V8 would indeed be coming, 3 years later we had the GS F.
03-15-17, 03:25 PM
#10
Take all these 'GS getting canceled rumors' with a grain of salt..
- Lexus has the new scalable Global Architecture Luxury (GAL) platform debuted on the LC and LS. Won't be the last models to use the platform.
- Afraid of overlap?! the 4th generation GS is 191in and the 5th generation LS is 206in.. hahaha yeah sure no room..
- Afraid of only V6 engines? ... 540i.. 740i..
- Mentioned above, some markets don't have both ES and GS
- Let's make the GS F then dump it.. right..
- Lexus has the new scalable Global Architecture Luxury (GAL) platform debuted on the LC and LS. Won't be the last models to use the platform.
- Afraid of overlap?! the 4th generation GS is 191in and the 5th generation LS is 206in.. hahaha yeah sure no room..
- Afraid of only V6 engines? ... 540i.. 740i..
- Mentioned above, some markets don't have both ES and GS
- Let's make the GS F then dump it.. right..
You cannot follow Lexus logic, sometimes it just isn't there.
4GS maybe 191", but don't forget that Lexus has an ES which is 192.7″ and that's enough to fill the gap between the IS and LS.
Lexus does not always follow the Germans. BMW can afford to keep both, Lexus maybe either cannot or has other thoughts on this subject.
GS-F was not a complete failure, but it has failed, no matter how you look at it.
I think if they do decide to cancel it, the ES will become more luxurious, maybe they'll add an AWD or perhaps an IS will grow by a few inches.
03-15-17, 03:26 PM
#11
april fools!
dumb rationale.
The GS does not overlap the LS.
But Sure, sell me a new $50,000 LS, and I'll buy it.!!!
They should make the GS less ugly, but if they have no midsized RWD in the line up, Lexus will be seen as less premium. All their sales being from FWD cars.
The japanese have an epidemic of poor sales in the midsized rwd class........ Infiniti with their **** poor selling M45. Lexus with their poor selling GS.
But if they remove the GS, the outcome will be like Infiniti's. Poor sales of the M45 vs poor sales of the LS.
I have a feeling the 2018 LS will be a poor seller
dumb rationale.
The GS does not overlap the LS.
But Sure, sell me a new $50,000 LS, and I'll buy it.!!!
They should make the GS less ugly, but if they have no midsized RWD in the line up, Lexus will be seen as less premium. All their sales being from FWD cars.
The japanese have an epidemic of poor sales in the midsized rwd class........ Infiniti with their **** poor selling M45. Lexus with their poor selling GS.
But if they remove the GS, the outcome will be like Infiniti's. Poor sales of the M45 vs poor sales of the LS.
I have a feeling the 2018 LS will be a poor seller
03-15-17, 03:32 PM
#12
how can lexus make the GS desirable like the 5 and E ?
This is something the japanese can't answer
When the current GS came out, I nitpicked about some of its design. like the character line goes limp behind the rear door handles, and overall just doesn't look as premium as the german competitors
This is something the japanese can't answer
When the current GS came out, I nitpicked about some of its design. like the character line goes limp behind the rear door handles, and overall just doesn't look as premium as the german competitors
03-15-17, 03:33 PM
#13
Instructor
april fools!
dumb rationale.
The GS does not overlap the LS.
But Sure, sell me a new $50,000 LS, and I'll buy it.!!!
They should make the GS less ugly, but if they have no midsized RWD in the line up, Lexus will be seen as less premium. All their sales being from FWD cars.
The japanese have an epidemic of poor sales in the midsized rwd class........ Infiniti with their **** poor selling M45. Lexus with their poor selling GS.
But if they remove the GS, the outcome will be like Infiniti's. Poor sales of the M45 vs poor sales of the LS.
I have a feeling the 2018 LS will be a poor seller
dumb rationale.
The GS does not overlap the LS.
But Sure, sell me a new $50,000 LS, and I'll buy it.!!!
They should make the GS less ugly, but if they have no midsized RWD in the line up, Lexus will be seen as less premium. All their sales being from FWD cars.
The japanese have an epidemic of poor sales in the midsized rwd class........ Infiniti with their **** poor selling M45. Lexus with their poor selling GS.
But if they remove the GS, the outcome will be like Infiniti's. Poor sales of the M45 vs poor sales of the LS.
I have a feeling the 2018 LS will be a poor seller
03-15-17, 04:05 PM
#14
This has been discussed before. There is a strong possibility of an AWD ES coming soon. Also, the ES is not just a North American market vehicle, as stated earlier. It's not sold in Europe, or Japan, but that could change, too.
03-15-17, 04:29 PM
#15
Sales have been poor so the probability of them cancelling it is possible....the GS just never met the demand, think business...I also don't find it ugly at all but maybe the target market does...