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Old 01-17-17, 01:10 PM
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This is the 2018 Ford Mustang – a restyled, tweaked, and up-contented version of the pony car we've been enjoying since it ditched its stick axle back in 2014. As far as mid-cycle refreshes go, this one wins on some tangible aspects, but the subjective aspects are, well, subjective. And the V6 is kaput. It's not a huge surprise, but more on that later.

Let's start with the new front-end styling by way of comparing it to the old car. The 2015 Ford Mustang was a polarizing design, although most of the criticism was about it being derivative rather than unattractive. It was a handsome beast, aggressive and yet classy. You might even say that the focus was at the time to make a product that would appeal to a global audience. Ford succeeded, and (as Ford likes to loudly boast) the Mustang is the top-selling sportscar worldwide.

It seems like the main design brief for the '18 Mustang, to a biased eye well-steeped in the '15 Mustang styling "controversy", is to banish the internet troll cry of "Fusion coupe!" once and for all. The nose drops precipitously – without a measuring tape and with a bad theoretical ruler, I'd say a couple of inches. Ford showed us a presentation with a split-in-half render, the new and old car side-by-side. The old car's nose looks terribly blocky and tall by comparison. In profile, it's definitely an improvement.

Some of the front-end changes are aero tweaks, working together to drop the coefficient of drag as well as to better balance lift front and rear at higher speeds. No one was talking numbers – Ford loves to hold stuff back, dribbling it out a few drops at a time – so stay tuned for specifics. The Ford guys were quick to assure us that the changes will be quantifiable and substantive. Sprinkle a grain of salt on that.

The headlights, however, change shape drastically. Rather than the aggressive glare of the '15's scalloped headlights, the '18 goes to an "eagle's head" shape that looks more deeply inset. They remind me a bit of the front-end redesign that the original Mustang underwent in 1967 that traded some timeless character for a more contemporary vibe. Like the '67 cars, I think it looks less attractive in lower trims but should come into its own once we see the restyled Shelby G350 (or better, the rumored GT500).

Three new colors help flesh out the '67 Mustang analogy. There's Royal Crimson, a dark maroon that is a throwback to (but not exact match for) the '67 Vintage Burgundy color. The other two new colors are Kona Blue and Orange Fury, which the car Ford displayed to us was painted. Other cosmetic tweaks include a new stripe offset stripe package in white or black, and a black rear decklid applique for all trims and models. Out back, the taillights look very similar from a distance, but the individual "gills" take on a pronounced C-shape in profile. There are also a total of 10 new wheel designs, 12 in total, including several wheels that are stand-alone options.

Inside, materials (at least in the premium trims) get plusher in most of the right places. For example, the door rollover (where you'd rest your arm on the sill, if it wasn't so high) gets some soft padding, as does the center console and the new knee bolsters on the side of said console. The engine start button is now spun aluminum, and it feels nice. The premium-trim seats get some blue or red accent trimming. It classes up the joint.

The real party trick inside is the optional 12-inch fully digital gauge cluster and its various display modes. A brief video presentation showed all the major display modes, which drastically change the position of the various instruments and secondary information. There is a traditional view, with two round gauges, and there are other display types that a utilize bar-style tachometer and numerical speedo readout. While the various gauge display modes are keyed to the basic drive modes (Normal, Sport, and Track), the driver will also be able to override and select whichever one they like. Track apps will also have more real estate on the display to take over. We don't have images and descriptions of all the functions and display times at this time, but surely there will be a detailed video closer to roll-out.

Ford's also using this occasion to introduce what it calls MyMode, which is a little like the "Individual" drive mode setting on a Mercedes-Benz. Basically, it stores your selections for drive mode, the suspension setting, steering preferences, the active exhaust valve behavior, and other preferences so you don't have to reselect them every time. It's selected with the steering wheel controls and the main gauge display.

The engine changes are minimal, other than the loss of the V6 that has finally been retired after the indignity of serving mainly the rental car fleets in bare bones trim for the last few years. It didn't have to be like this; At one point, the old V6s with the Track Pack (later called, for whatever reason, Mayhem Mustangs) had decent power and great suspensions. With the ascendancy of the EcoBoost, the V6 has been taken behind the barn and unceremoniously shot. Well, no one will miss it in its most recent incarnation, so that's that.

About that EcoBoost 2.3-liter I4, it's getting a torque bump significant enough to merit transmission revisions to handle it. Ford says the extra torque comes from its limited-duration overboost function, so it's something only appreciable a few seconds at a time, but it's there. The V8, on the other hand, gets more significant changes: increased compression and an additional set of port fuel injectors to compliment the direct injectors – a technique Ford also uses on its 3.5-liter V6s, for a variety of reasons such as preventing carbon buildup on the valves. The V8, Ford promises, will rev higher and quicker than before. For both engines, Ford wouldn't discuss numbers (sense a theme here?) and didn't necessarily state that either engine would produce more horsepower. Again, stay tuned.

There are more transmission changes beyond the beefed up EcoBoost manual. The V8 manual gains a twin-disk clutch and a dual-mass flywheel, and both engines will be available with the new 10-speed auto that was co-developed with GM. Yes, Mustangs and Camaros will share bits! Sort of. But it's good bar trivia to rile up your local thin-skinned FoMoCo or Bowtie partisan. In any event, the 10-speed will offer a shorter first gear and a wider overall spread when compared to the outgoing auto. It'll also stay in first gear for extra hard launches. Selecting Sport and Track mode will lock out 10th gear and hold gears for longer, as you might imagine. Ford wouldn't say if the auto changed top speed significantly beyond reiterating that the 'Stang will be electronically limited.

There's good news in the handling department, too. All models get revised shocks, increased lateral stiffness, and revised stabilizer bars. Ford described the base suspension improvements as on par with the previous optional performance suspension. MagneRide will be an optional upgrade on any Mustang Performance Package – yes, that includes EcoBoost models with the PP. GT models with the Performance Pack will get new Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires. That being said, don't expect the GT350 MagneRide tuning to carry over. The Performance Package MagneRide will be matched with, and tuned for, less spring to keep things civilized for daily driving.

GT models will get quad tip exhausts, and EcoBoost models with get twin tips. Optional active exhaust valves, which will be user-configurable, should add some rumble.

Beyond the handling and powertrain improvements, the '18 Mustang also gains a bunch of safety technologies keyed off of the addition of an optical camera to compliment the existing radar technologies. This enables new safety features for Mustang, like Pre-Collision Assist with pedestrian detection, distance alert, lane-departure warning, lane-keeping assist, and Driver Alert System. It won't offer the stop-and-go aspect of the adaptive cruise technology like Ford baked into the '17 Fusion. You can, however, start, lock, unlock, and find your Mustang with the FordPass smartphone app, available on Mustang for the first time.

That's the outline of what Ford has in store for us with the 2018 Mustang. We expect hard numbers and more in-depth information to come. If you're wondering when the '18 Mustang will go on sale, North American dealers should start selling it in this fall.
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It's not surprising to see the V6 go most of the new ones I saw were either V8 or EcoBoost 4cyl. The boosted 4cyl power was too close to the V6 imo.

Part of me wish they would bring out limited models with the EcoBoost V6 but that may hurt V8 sales and feelings.
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That is a shame, the 6 cylinder is much better then the 4cyl which offers no advantages. Tests have shown the 6 cylinders to be just as quick or quicker and it gets as good as gas mileage if not better. It sounds better and will likely be more reliable. Can't believe people actually buy 4cyl Mustangs and muscle cars especially with lowish gas prices. If they did not want a NA 6 cylinder then they should just stick that 2.7l turbo eco boost 6 cylinder in there as the base engine which is much better then the 4 cyl.
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Ford killed the V6 by not allowing any options on that model.
They forced you to get the 4cyl turbo which has not been very reliable.
A lot of people actually wanted the V6 but not thebase model.
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the mustang v6 has always been around for as long as I can remember. I wonder how the mustang guys are taking this with the addition of a hybrid and death of the v6
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Originally Posted by plex
It's not surprising to see the V6 go most of the new ones I saw were either V8 or EcoBoost 4cyl. The boosted 4cyl power was too close to the V6 imo.

Part of me wish they would bring out limited models with the EcoBoost V6 but that may hurt V8 sales and feelings.
I'm kind of surprised that they aren't pushing a TT EcoBoost V6, like they are with the F-150.
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Ford killed the V6 by not allowing any options on that model.
They forced you to get the 4cyl turbo which has not been very reliable.
A lot of people actually wanted the V6 but not thebase model.
Depending on your age, marital status, and driving record, insurance premiums for Mustang V8s can be pretty steep. And one look at the way many of them are actually driven pretty much illustrates why.

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Interesting that Ford Mustang went back to the future in some ways. Four cylinder Mustangs have been a feature of the line for a long time, back to decades in fact. The best one and the one that has always been an interesting one was the late 80's Mustang SVO which rode on the Fox platform and it was quite a nice handler for its time. This is Ford going back to its European roots because that's where that car was inspired.

Gotta say it. Ford's retro pony is the nicest looker and handler of the bunch.
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Originally Posted by MattyG
Gotta say it. Ford's retro pony is the nicest looker and handler of the bunch.
You think the latest Mustang handles better than the new Camaro and it Cadillac-ATS-sourced chassis? The auto press seems to like the new Camaro's handling over the Mustang. However, I haven't (yet) sampled the new Camaro, so, press or no press, if you think it handles better than the Mustang, I'll take your word for it as a credible opinion.
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That's pretty disappointing, since many reviews did not like the four cylinder. Also heard about no mileage advantage with it. I would not call this progress, but rather Ford trying to please CAFE or EPA. This would be a case of the general public losing in the name of "progress."

As far as the facelift, what a whale of a dinosaur! The sloped nose looks dopey, as if the car comes pre-bent from running into a wall- way too curvy. Current slit headlights are sportier. New headlights look deliberately stretched too high, bringing them more in line with a ordinary sedan rather than a sports car. Rear lights and dash are definitely cleaner though, and look much improved. Overall, still an attractive package for the price.
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Ford killed the V6 by not allowing any options on that model.
They forced you to get the 4cyl turbo which has not been very reliable.
A lot of people actually wanted the V6 but not thebase model.
Exactly this. The V6 was the sweeter powerplant.
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
That's pretty disappointing, since many reviews did not like the four cylinder. Also heard about no mileage advantage with it. I would not call this progress, but rather Ford trying to please CAFE or EPA. This would be a case of the general public losing in the name of "progress."
I agree that sometimes the public suffers, but, as you yourself note, one cannot blame the automaker for what actually comes out of Congress and/or the Federal regulatory agencies.
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Originally Posted by tex2670
I'm kind of surprised that they aren't pushing a TT EcoBoost V6, like they are with the F-150.
I would love if they put the Ecoboost TTV6 in a Mustang it's in the new Ford GT they can even detune it if they like but that won't happen if for some odd reason they go away from the 5.0 V8 I could see the TTV6 being an option.
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Originally Posted by plex
I would love if they put the Ecoboost TTV6 in a Mustang it's in the new Ford GT they can even detune it if they like but that won't happen if for some odd reason they go away from the 5.0 V8 I could see the TTV6 being an option.
They have a 2.7l turbo they can use for a entry Mustang for the lower end cars and then they can use they 3.5 tt for the Ford GT but I still think they should use a V8 for the GT if it is going to cost around 400K like some rumors suggest and to continue with tradition.
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