Self-Driving Vehicles
01-18-17, 01:35 PM
#346
^ I'm sure they have a "lawyer screen" when you engage Tesla autopilot telling you to pay attention to the road and keep your hands on the wheel to help them avoid liability.
This IMO is the future of self driving cars, they did this back in the 1990's, it would work great today IMO, since its a more closed/controlled environment. There is just no political will to build roads like this though because it costs so much money. Plus this type of interstate system could put a lot of truck drivers out of business, as drivers wouldn't be needed until they got on local roads to deliver freight.
http://gas2.org/2013/05/24/flashback...-of-the-1990s/
This IMO is the future of self driving cars, they did this back in the 1990's, it would work great today IMO, since its a more closed/controlled environment. There is just no political will to build roads like this though because it costs so much money. Plus this type of interstate system could put a lot of truck drivers out of business, as drivers wouldn't be needed until they got on local roads to deliver freight.
http://gas2.org/2013/05/24/flashback...-of-the-1990s/
01-18-17, 01:54 PM
#347
Lexus Fanatic
And I have 100% confidence its not happening. Once again, autonomous cars can only work in perfect world and we don't live in one. We can have a bunch of driver assists that make the car almost autonomous, but it will still require the driver to concentrate on the road and take over control when situation requires so.
I'm actually going to go on a limb here and say that some of the technology that we already have on cars may go away soon. There was already a case of a Darwin award winner who chose to ignore all the warnings his self driving Tesla gave him before taking him out of the gene pool. I'm sure the lawyers will have a field day with this case, and depending on the outcome car manufacturers will likely just drop this technology all together to avoid liability.
I'm actually going to go on a limb here and say that some of the technology that we already have on cars may go away soon. There was already a case of a Darwin award winner who chose to ignore all the warnings his self driving Tesla gave him before taking him out of the gene pool. I'm sure the lawyers will have a field day with this case, and depending on the outcome car manufacturers will likely just drop this technology all together to avoid liability.
I would make this wager with you using any amount of money LOL Please cite some source which indicates that the technology we already have "may go away soon".
01-18-17, 02:10 PM
#348
Did you read what I wrote? Several lawsuits, and car manufacturers may chose not to include autonomous driving technology in their cars to avoid liability.
01-18-17, 02:33 PM
#349
Lexus Fanatic
Did you read what I wrote? Several lawsuits, and car manufacturers may chose not to include autonomous driving technology in their cars to avoid liability.
I can can say I think carmakers are going to stop using keyless entry and start. Doesn't mean I have any idea what I'm talking about.
01-18-17, 02:51 PM
#350
LOL, okay.
i asked for a source, not your opinion. Where has an executive from an auto manufacturer said they may not include autonomous driving features because of liability? What automaker has removed autonomous features once they have implemented them? In fact automakers have said they would shoulder any liability, I.E. Volvo.
I can can say I think carmakers are going to stop using keyless entry and start. Doesn't mean I have any idea what I'm talking about.
i asked for a source, not your opinion. Where has an executive from an auto manufacturer said they may not include autonomous driving features because of liability? What automaker has removed autonomous features once they have implemented them? In fact automakers have said they would shoulder any liability, I.E. Volvo.
I can can say I think carmakers are going to stop using keyless entry and start. Doesn't mean I have any idea what I'm talking about.
01-18-17, 03:14 PM
#351
Lexus Fanatic
Sitting in a bar right now for happy hour. Audi commercial on...what's it about? Autonomous driving. Pictures of empty cars running around, self driving rally cars. Definitely no investment lol
01-18-17, 03:22 PM
#352
Well, that explains it - you get your information from marketing and commercials. In the real world there are no empty cars running around. Even Google's "self driving car" is anything but - there is still a human driver that constantly has to take over control when autonomous mode can't handle a condition.
01-18-17, 03:24 PM
#353
Lexus Fanatic
Of course there are no empty cars running around right now. The technology is still under development. They're getting ready to roll out autonomous trucking convoys out west.
I'm not making this up, do some research into it.
Why marketing does tell you is what they're highlighting and where they're trying to go as an organization. The fact that they would film an entire ad about autonomous driving to highlight Audis traffic assist low speed autonomous driving feature speaks volumes about their focus.
I'm not making this up, do some research into it.
Why marketing does tell you is what they're highlighting and where they're trying to go as an organization. The fact that they would film an entire ad about autonomous driving to highlight Audis traffic assist low speed autonomous driving feature speaks volumes about their focus.
01-18-17, 03:30 PM
#354
Of course there are no empty cars running around right now. The technology is still under development. They're getting ready to roll out autonomous trucking convoys out west.
I'm not making this up, do some research into it.
Why marketing does tell you is what they're highlighting and where they're trying to go as an organization. The fact that they would film an entire ad about autonomous driving to highlight Audis traffic assist low speed autonomous driving feature speaks volumes about their focus.
I'm not making this up, do some research into it.
Why marketing does tell you is what they're highlighting and where they're trying to go as an organization. The fact that they would film an entire ad about autonomous driving to highlight Audis traffic assist low speed autonomous driving feature speaks volumes about their focus.
At least there is one CEO that keeps it honest about self driving cars.
http://jalopnik.com/ferrari-boss-on-...hoo-1762891526
01-18-17, 03:32 PM
#355
Lexus Fanatic
Surprise, Ferrari isn't interested in self driving cars. Did you read the article? He didn't say self driving cars weren't coming he said you wouldn't have self driving Ferraris. Why would you?
Keep telling yourself that. That whole internet thing is never going to catch on either lol
Keep telling yourself that. That whole internet thing is never going to catch on either lol
01-18-17, 04:00 PM
#357
Lexus Fanatic
Truth here on both sides. Self-driving cars may be feasible, in some circumstances (if one can make the technology safe enough, which is by no means guaranteed) for those who are simply too aged or weak to continue to drive themselves. But even then, those aged people would have to be able to program the destination-computers correctly, so the car knows where to go. Otherwise, Och and jadu have made some very good points...I agree with much of what they have said.
01-18-17, 06:46 PM
#358
Lexus Fanatic
Amazon filed another patent for autonomous driving today, so add Amazon to the list of people foolishly investing in this go nowhere technology lol
Nissan also announced today that they were trialing autonomous cars in London (not a big city?) next month.
Nissan also announced today that they were trialing autonomous cars in London (not a big city?) next month.
01-18-17, 07:24 PM
#359
Lexus Fanatic
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Will a self driving car shovel itself out of snow when it gets stuck?
What about mechanical failures? What about electronic failures?
what happens when an over air updates goes wrong and computer freezes up? What happens when the car loses signal to satellite or several autonomous cars lose signal when communicating with each other?
self-driving cars are a) already on the road, b) have enormous investment from dozens of companies, and c) have way too much upside not to happen. even apple is allegedly in the game.
01-18-17, 07:40 PM
#360
clearly times square will ban cars entirely at some point. it's a ludicrous waste of time, pollution and effort to allow cars there at all. in fact i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of manhattan becomes more pedestrian friendly, but with stiffer penalties (and auto ticketing by facial recognition and cameras) for jay walking. this would allow self-driving cars to be less impeded, and they would do even better without bad human drivers.
quite possibly yes - it might be able to deploy a small intelligent robot that does all the digging, then goes back in the car when it can move.
cars are already EXTREMELY reliable, and in the event a self-driving car does break down, the car can request another to come by for the passengers to switch to. no big deal.
lots of what ifs that have easy solutions.
self-driving cars are a) already on the road, b) have enormous investment from dozens of companies, and c) have way too much upside not to happen. even apple is allegedly in the game.
quite possibly yes - it might be able to deploy a small intelligent robot that does all the digging, then goes back in the car when it can move.
cars are already EXTREMELY reliable, and in the event a self-driving car does break down, the car can request another to come by for the passengers to switch to. no big deal.
lots of what ifs that have easy solutions.
self-driving cars are a) already on the road, b) have enormous investment from dozens of companies, and c) have way too much upside not to happen. even apple is allegedly in the game.