MattyG

I am not certain when the fake or dual exhaust look started, but I do know that domestic manufacturers went to single muffler dual outlet exhaust on cars like the Camaro or Trans Am a long time ago back in the day. But that was an era of emissions too, and carburated cars. As technology has gotten better, you almost don't need dual exhaust as the deciding factor unless it's a very high end performance car or muscle car.

With the Stinger's uncluttered back end, I find the four tip exhaust a little too busy. They should have gone the BMW 750 route with a clean rectangular single tip on each side.

Sulu

If I remember correctly, the 3rd-generation (1992 to 1996 model year) Camry V6 had a single-muffler, dual-tip exhaust. That was how you could tell that it was a Camry with the V6 and not the I4.

Byprodrive

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No, I would not do that.

Sulu

Good to hear!

bitkahuna

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real dual exhausts have some value on a v6/v8 by allowing freer breathing for each bank of cylinders, but a quad exhaust is pointless (except for posing ) unless the engine is fire breathing monster.

bitkahuna

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coulple of MT reviews...

first drive
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...t-test-review/

track drive
http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...-drive-review/

mmarshall

Thanks. I'm also waiting to see what Alex Dykes (Alex on Autos) thinks of it when he gets a chance to drive one. The dash, BTW, IMO, looks almost eeringly like that of the last Audi A3 I sampled. I understand that at least some of the current Kia stylists, in fact, came over from Audi.

F1Driver

Why would anyone buy this over say ... Infiniti's Q50 Red Sport 400?

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/infin...-drive-review/

Hoppean

I feel like the Stinger is the sleeper of the hour atm. There's definitely an underdog appeal to it. If reliability is up to par, it will be hard to beat in its segmet bang for buck wise.

BoDarville

i totally understand this sentiment, as i thought the same thing myself. then i watched a YouTube video of the kia being driven on a track, and noticed it had a heads up display (which the q50 lacks), as well as the ability to display digital speedometer in the information panel, which got me thinking what other features it may have that you cannot get on the q50. cooled seats? folding mirrors? window sunshades? LSD? you also have to think about features it may come with at a price either the same or less than a base (no options) RS400. blind spot monitoring? fwd collision? rear parking sensors? etc.?

right now pricing, mpg, and instrumented testing/dynamics of the kia are speculation and remain to be seen. but the kia could have the potential to present a value proposition to vehicles such as the RS400. we will have to wait (and wait and wait) & see.

F1Driver

Those features you mentioned are nice to have but these are compact sport sedans and I'm judging them on performance and handling. In terms of performance and handling the Stinger comes up short compared to the Q50 Red Sport 400. Q50 Red Sport 400 is faster to 60 mph, pulls higher G's, quicker through the slalom and stops shorter:

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/kia/s...t-test-review/

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/infin...t-test-review/

It's like the Genesis coupe vs. Infiniti G37 all over again. The original Genesis coupe was meant to compete with the Infiniti G37 but it came up short against the G37. By the way, the Q50 does have blind spot monitoring, fwd collision and rear parking sensors. Does the Stinger have: Backup Collision Intervention, Lane Departure Prevention, Blind Spot Intervention, Moving Object Detection, Auto leveling Adaptive Front Lighting System (AFS) or Around View Monitor? You get what you paid for.

Toys4RJill

I agree. I would add in the Mercedes Benz C-class and 3 series. Why would anyone want a KIA over a MB for the price they want. This new KIA is going to be as successful as the Chevrolet SS a few years ago. Not even sure if the SS is still sold.

pbm317

SS is discontinued, mostly due to the shuttering of facilities in Australia. The SS was only available in basically one configuration, the V8 RWD. With a price that was in the mid to upper $40Ks.

The Stinger will be more successful (assuming you're measuring success solely by sales numbers) because it'll be available at a much lower price point, with the 2.0T, RWD and AWD configurations, as well as the 3.3 GT model, again with both RWD and AWD configurations.

pbm317

Motor Trend's latest video. Stinger GT, it's not meant to be an all-out track monster, but it is composed, capable and confident, while still being comfortable and luxurious.

F1Driver

Sure, the Stinger's interior looks better than the average KIA but I would not call it luxurious. You want a luxurious interior, look at a C class or an A4.