Lexus Overtakes BMW in U.S. Luxury Sales
12-07-16, 07:16 PM
#31
Lexus Fanatic
I'm with you on the red/orange instrument-panel lights....they have never been my cup of tea either, even in an airplane cockpit (I also have a pilot's license). Audi and Pontiac used the red/orange for years, and Nissan/Infiniti a weird yellow/orange color for several years. White is much nicer...and if they get too bright, you can always turn the intensity down. The light blue/aqua color, though, used in some Chevy, Buick, and GMC products is the nicest of all....my Verano has that light blue. The Ford Mustang had a nice (though complex) solution to the problem several years ago, but I don't know if the latest Mustangs still have it......a control-setting that lets you choose the dash-lights from any one of over a hundred colors.
12-07-16, 07:26 PM
#32
Lexus Champion
I've found the material quality and fit and finish of BMW interiors to be very good. The styling is on the spartan/dated side vs.the competition though. Controls are well positioned and easy to use.
12-07-16, 07:39 PM
#33
Lexus Fanatic
I don't think BMW interiors are crappy. Just dated. They are where the previous Audi A4/A5/S4/S5 interiors were before the new ones were introduced. Nicely finished, but dated. I'm sure the new 3 and 5 Series will bring new, modern interiors.
I also may be the only one on the planet that doesn't care for the orange lights, but that's just a personal preference. I know they are based on aircraft lights for better visibility, but I prefer white.
I also may be the only one on the planet that doesn't care for the orange lights, but that's just a personal preference. I know they are based on aircraft lights for better visibility, but I prefer white.
12-07-16, 07:55 PM
#34
Lexus Champion
I agree and I have always wondered how BMW gets away with their interiors sometimes. I always thought the leather was coarse and too firm. Hate the gauges as well. Most things I can't stand about BMW. With that said, my sister moved on from her 10 IS250 and into Twin Turbo 3 series and she simply raves, and raves about. Idrive is fantastic and the interior is just great, her Lexus has been completely forgotten. She says everything feels more solid.
12-07-16, 07:58 PM
#35
Lexus Fanatic
What I meant, though, was that, in this category, Audi and Lexus usually lead in the interior fit/finish department...though the new Lincoln Continental interior is also quite impressive. BMW interiors aren't crappy as such, but they don't seem to have as fine detail and/or fit/finish as some of the better Audis. And I never was much impressed with that Navajo "Leather" that BMW used, which, to me, looked and felt like much cheaper perforated-vinyl.
12-07-16, 08:11 PM
#36
Lexus Champion
I don't think BMW interiors are crappy. Just dated. They are where the previous Audi A4/A5/S4/S5 interiors were before the new ones were introduced. Nicely finished, but dated. I'm sure the new 3 and 5 Series will bring new, modern interiors.
I also may be the only one on the planet that doesn't care for the orange lights, but that's just a personal preference. I know they are based on aircraft lights for better visibility, but I prefer white.
I also may be the only one on the planet that doesn't care for the orange lights, but that's just a personal preference. I know they are based on aircraft lights for better visibility, but I prefer white.
12-08-16, 12:07 PM
#37
Pole Position
12-08-16, 12:09 PM
#38
Pole Position
It won't last long if Audi keeps following the trend of one sausage many sizes that all German brands are following, including VW. I wouldnt be able to tell which Porsche is new even if you offered me $1m
12-08-16, 02:21 PM
#39
12-08-16, 06:52 PM
#40
Lexus Fanatic
I see new 7s a lot around here. I actually quite like them...
12-09-16, 08:26 AM
#41
Lexus Fanatic
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bmw/mb interiors tend to use a lot of hard plastic, which while it feels 'solid' still feels and looks cheap to me. 
12-09-16, 11:27 AM
#42
12-09-16, 12:29 PM
#43
BMW interiors are perfectly fine. Not as flashy from a design standpoint, but they use the highest quality materials and are built very solidly. Aside from the aging current 3-series and X3 their entire lineup is fine.
If anybody, it's Lexus whose interiors are lacking. Yes their interiors are much better than they used to be, but they still lack the attention to detail their competitors have. Lexus has, for years, used that ugly charcoal colored plastic copiously throughout their cabins. And the Toyota parts bin special doesn't help either.
If anybody, it's Lexus whose interiors are lacking. Yes their interiors are much better than they used to be, but they still lack the attention to detail their competitors have. Lexus has, for years, used that ugly charcoal colored plastic copiously throughout their cabins. And the Toyota parts bin special doesn't help either.
12-09-16, 12:31 PM
#44
I agree and I have always wondered how BMW gets away with their interiors sometimes. I always thought the leather was coarse and too firm. Hate the gauges as well. Most things I can't stand about BMW. With that said, my sister moved on from her 10 IS250 and into Twin Turbo 3 series and she simply raves, and raves about. Idrive is fantastic and the interior is just great, her Lexus has been completely forgotten. She says everything feels more solid.
12-09-16, 12:31 PM
#45
Lexus Fanatic
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