MM Full-Review: 2017 Cadillac XT5
#61
Lexus Test Driver
Why? If Coke, Pepsi and other soft drink companies can subcontract out to independent bottling companies to produce their drinks per a specific recipe, and have it taste the same, why can't a car manufacturer replicate what it does from one of its factories to another, where it controls everything?
#62
Lexus Champion
Why? If Coke, Pepsi and other soft drink companies can subcontract out to independent bottling companies to produce their drinks per a specific recipe, and have it taste the same, why can't a car manufacturer replicate what it does from one of its factories to another, where it controls everything?
I can see some people being hesitant, but the times are changing.
#63
Lexus Champion
Why? If Coke, Pepsi and other soft drink companies can subcontract out to independent bottling companies to produce their drinks per a specific recipe, and have it taste the same, why can't a car manufacturer replicate what it does from one of its factories to another, where it controls everything?
#64
Lexus Fanatic
Sure I do. But if I were to pay a premium for any Toyota or Lexus, I would expect it to come Japan. A Corolla is a cheap car, made for low budgets. Price has to be kept low. An X5 should be coming from Germany. Given the choice, would much rather have my car made in Japan. Too bad the Toyota iM was not available at the time, would of got it as it is still imported from Japan.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 02-12-18 at 10:11 AM.
#65
Lexus Fanatic
Why? If Coke, Pepsi and other soft drink companies can subcontract out to independent bottling companies to produce their drinks per a specific recipe, and have it taste the same, why can't a car manufacturer replicate what it does from one of its factories to another, where it controls everything?
#66
Lexus Fanatic
Why? If Coke, Pepsi and other soft drink companies can subcontract out to independent bottling companies to produce their drinks per a specific recipe, and have it taste the same, why can't a car manufacturer replicate what it does from one of its factories to another, where it controls everything?
People felt this way when Nissan OE filters went to China, from Japan. For the Lexus and my wife's car I use WIX XP filters, made in USA. I feel comfortable with them. If I saw Mexico, I think I'd still feel ok, since WIX is a USA co.
I like that most of the Lexus parts I have purchased, say made in Japan. Can they make them in China? Mexico? Philippines? To their specs? Sure, but I prefer Japan...
I thought that your question would be tested soon, with the next BMW 3 series. Snap On tools also has tested the waters, by removing U.S.A. from the tools was it in 2015? It was a total disaster...
#67
Why? If Coke, Pepsi and other soft drink companies can subcontract out to independent bottling companies to produce their drinks per a specific recipe, and have it taste the same, why can't a car manufacturer replicate what it does from one of its factories to another, where it controls everything?
That said, I don't think moving production of vehicles from one part of the world to the US would be as impactful. It's much easier reproducing something mechanical vs something that is a sensory experience.
#68
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Sure I do. But if I were to pay a premium for any Toyota or Lexus, I would expect it to come Japan. A Corolla is a cheap car, made for low budgets. Price has to be kept low. An X5 should be coming from Germany. Given the choice, would much rather have my car made in Japan. Too bad the Toyota iM was not available at the time, would of got it as it is still imported from Japan.
#69
Lexus Fanatic
Exactly. I believe BMW uses the Spartanburg, SC plant for most if not all of their CUV and SUV (with the exception of the X1) production for worldwide distribution. So if you live in Germany and want an X3, X5 etc. it came from the U.S.
I can see some people being hesitant, but the times are changing.
I can see some people being hesitant, but the times are changing.
Toyota USA vs Toyota Japan, there definitely is a difference. The issue is not in the reliability of the USA product but more in the overall design of the products. Japan designed Toyotas are built at a higher level of design.
#71
Lexus Fanatic
edit But I'll still look at them online for **** and giggles. And Snap On tools? No USA on the tool, no buy. Period. It really depends on the product we're talking about, as to where I would prefer it's produced.
Last edited by Johnhav430; 02-12-18 at 12:39 PM.
#72
I only revived this old thread because I did a google search for XT5's and this popped up. So I answered M Marshall's last question.
#73
I have the luxury version, which is one step up from the basic model which has nothing. I wanted the blind spot monitor, memory seats and other new electronic goodies.
#74
Thanks for the reply.....I see you bumped up an old thread.
And congratulations on your lease.
Welcome to the world of cost-cutting....I can assure you the XT5 is not alone in that regard.
Again, welcome to the world of CUE. That's just the way they designed the system, and has been (just like yours) a common source of owner-complaints. Cadillac marketers.....are you listening? In my own opinion, twirl-***** for volume and tuning, not buttons, are actually best. Some recent Cadillacs (and Lincolns) also had a quirky finger-slide control for volume and fan speed that I thought was just awful....similiar complaints from customers forced a redesign of those, too.
And congratulations on your lease.
Welcome to the world of cost-cutting....I can assure you the XT5 is not alone in that regard.
Again, welcome to the world of CUE. That's just the way they designed the system, and has been (just like yours) a common source of owner-complaints. Cadillac marketers.....are you listening? In my own opinion, twirl-***** for volume and tuning, not buttons, are actually best. Some recent Cadillacs (and Lincolns) also had a quirky finger-slide control for volume and fan speed that I thought was just awful....similiar complaints from customers forced a redesign of those, too.
#75
Lexus Champion
Congrats! I think the XT5 is a great overall package. All cars have their perks and quirks. You should share some pics.