Tesla Model 3
because cr review is very unfair and biased, if you look at edmunds review they found a huge list of problems but they also took it in and allow tesla to fix it so whatever score they gave the car is consider fair. now if you look at crs' they found a potential safety issue with the brakes, they didn't even bring it in for service and never gave tesla a chance to remedy it, instead they just go on and gave it a bad score and continue riding the click bait news which is just biased and unfair. they never gave tesla a chance.
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because cr review is very unfair and biased, if you look at edmunds review they found a huge list of problems but they also took it in and allow tesla to fix it so whatever score they gave the car is consider fair. now if you look at crs' they found a potential safety issue with the brakes, they didn't even bring it in for service and never gave tesla a chance to remedy it, instead they just go on and gave it a bad score and continue riding the click bait news which is just biased and unfair. they never gave tesla a chance.
CR's review not only showed poor braking from the Model 3, it also showed lack of quality assurance from Tesla. <--- This is a fact already. Tesla is known to have quality issues. A GTR Vlogger on YouTube found 13 flaws with his Model X P100D within 2 weeks of ownership.
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because cr review is very unfair and biased, if you look at edmunds review they found a huge list of problems but they also took it in and allow tesla to fix it so whatever score they gave the car is consider fair. now if you look at crs' they found a potential safety issue with the brakes, they didn't even bring it in for service and never gave tesla a chance to remedy it, instead they just go on and gave it a bad score and continue riding the click bait news which is just biased and unfair. they never gave tesla a chance.
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Tesla released the brake firmware update last Friday. I wonder if Consumer Reports and other reviewers will retest and update their reviews anytime soon.
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/05/28/...-brake-update/
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/05/28/...-brake-update/
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Looks like CR did the OTA update and now Recommends the Model 3. It stopped 20 feet shorter after the update.
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...raking-update/
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...raking-update/
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Looks like CR did the OTA update and now Recommends the Model 3. It stopped 20 feet shorter after the update.
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...raking-update/
https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...raking-update/
I still think the Tesla Model 3 is still an ugly car that isn't worth 40K money. I also think Tesla fans are some of the worst people too; I read the comment section of the CR article and someone implying Tesla will beat the competition because they can improve a car with software. A lot of Tesla owners tend to forget that a car is more mechanic than software.
from that link:
not sure what Musk is doing? some things a software updates cant fix. but trying this hard to please CR? does that mean that current 3's on the road will get these fixes? no wonder Tesla is burning through cash...
They found issues with the Model 3’s wind noise, stiff ride, and uncomfortable rear seat. Last week, Musk told CR in a conversation that the automaker had already made changes to its production line to address those three issues.
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All the talk here about the Tesla cheaping out on the brakes. If this was fixed with OTA update, clearly it was an ABS issue and not mechanical. Agreed that this should have been caught but other there have been worse things that have come out of other carmakers
Tesla has had a long history of improving their cars with software updates. Mechanically, many things are there already and it’s great that an automaker actually tries to improve things after the car leaves the showroom. With any other brand, it’s like pulling teeth to try to get any sort of update to the cars infotainment version. I think the car looks pretty good for 35K and let’s not forget the tax incentives are still applicable at the time of this post. For 25K, it’s a good deal. However, I also realize many 3s are going for 50K plus at the moment.
Tesla has had a long history of improving their cars with software updates. Mechanically, many things are there already and it’s great that an automaker actually tries to improve things after the car leaves the showroom. With any other brand, it’s like pulling teeth to try to get any sort of update to the cars infotainment version. I think the car looks pretty good for 35K and let’s not forget the tax incentives are still applicable at the time of this post. For 25K, it’s a good deal. However, I also realize many 3s are going for 50K plus at the moment.
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All the talk here about the Tesla cheaping out on the brakes. If this was fixed with OTA update, clearly it was an ABS issue and not mechanical. Agreed that this should have been caught but other there have been worse things that have come out of other carmakers
Tesla has had a long history of improving their cars with software updates. Mechanically, many things are there already and it’s great that an automaker actually tries to improve things after the car leaves the showroom. With any other brand, it’s like pulling teeth to try to get any sort of update to the cars infotainment version. I think the car looks pretty good for 35K and let’s not forget the tax incentives are still applicable at the time of this post. For 25K, it’s a good deal. However, I also realize many 3s are going for 50K plus at the moment.
Tesla has had a long history of improving their cars with software updates. Mechanically, many things are there already and it’s great that an automaker actually tries to improve things after the car leaves the showroom. With any other brand, it’s like pulling teeth to try to get any sort of update to the cars infotainment version. I think the car looks pretty good for 35K and let’s not forget the tax incentives are still applicable at the time of this post. For 25K, it’s a good deal. However, I also realize many 3s are going for 50K plus at the moment.
Also, if it works like best they managed to test, which was 60-0 in 130-135ft, thats probably by far the worst in the price range... These days Camry stops 10ft less than that and many cars do 15-20ft less, especially at $50k.
Also both Model S and Model X had good brakes, and were well reviewed for their braking power. So obviously they cheapened it to the max.
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Tesla has had a long history of improving their cars with software updates. Mechanically, many things are there already and it’s great that an automaker actually tries to improve things after the car leaves the showroom. With any other brand, it’s like pulling teeth to try to get any sort of update to the cars infotainment version. I think the car looks pretty good for 35K and let’s not forget the tax incentives are still applicable at the time of this post. For 25K, it’s a good deal. However, I also realize many 3s are going for 50K plus at the moment.
With the car as it currently sells, a near 50K Model 3 with that interior is horrible. I'll even say a 30K car with that Model 3 interior is horrible.
there are many well documented quality issues with Model 3, it is normal for Tesla, it is definitely not normal for car industry.
Also, if it works like best they managed to test, which was 60-0 in 130-135ft, thats probably by far the worst in the price range... These days Camry stops 10ft less than that and many cars do 15-20ft less, especially at $50k.
Also both Model S and Model X had good brakes, and were well reviewed for their braking power. So obviously they cheapened it to the max.
Also, if it works like best they managed to test, which was 60-0 in 130-135ft, thats probably by far the worst in the price range... These days Camry stops 10ft less than that and many cars do 15-20ft less, especially at $50k.
Also both Model S and Model X had good brakes, and were well reviewed for their braking power. So obviously they cheapened it to the max.
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You have to base the interior on 35K, not 50K. In the same way you can get a 22K camry vs 35K. The interior is the same. Back when I purchased my RX450h, the RX350 started at around 38K, and mine had a sticker price of 63K. For 35K, the interior is fine. The only thing that bothers me is the way the steering wheel looks.