Toyota wins Daytona 500!
02-22-16, 10:05 AM
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Toyota wins Daytona 500!
huge win for Toyota...
even if only by 100th of a second
When Toyota broke into NASCAR, it was uncertain whether Japanese cars and the sport would mix. There are no such doubts now.
A Toyota won the Daytona 500 for the first time, and the manufacturer had four cars in the top five. The performance came after a 2015 season in which Toyota won the Brickyard 400, NASCAR All-Star race and Sprint Cup championship with Kyle Busch.
"I cannot articulate adequately what this means to Toyota," said David Wilson, president of Toyota Racing Development. "I'll start by saying it's our single biggest race in our company's history."
Denny Hamlin nips Martin Truex Jr. to win Daytona 500
Toyota's NASCAR history began in 2004 when it became the first foreign-based manufacturer to compete in the Craftsman Truck Series.
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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...222-story.html
even if only by 100th of a second
When Toyota broke into NASCAR, it was uncertain whether Japanese cars and the sport would mix. There are no such doubts now.
A Toyota won the Daytona 500 for the first time, and the manufacturer had four cars in the top five. The performance came after a 2015 season in which Toyota won the Brickyard 400, NASCAR All-Star race and Sprint Cup championship with Kyle Busch.
"I cannot articulate adequately what this means to Toyota," said David Wilson, president of Toyota Racing Development. "I'll start by saying it's our single biggest race in our company's history."
Toyota's NASCAR history began in 2004 when it became the first foreign-based manufacturer to compete in the Craftsman Truck Series.
(Deleted anti-japanese comments by one driver
)http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...222-story.html
02-22-16, 10:15 AM
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I still think Toyota is flushing money down the toilet advertising in NASCAR. They aren't really racing IMO, its a spec series with technology that has nothing to do with production cars, the only real benefit is getting the Toyota name out there.
Racing at LeMans, IMSA, F1, with production based cars is what gives you bang for the buck in racing. There is all kinds of technology on the new Corvette that is a direct result of things learned by the Corvette racing team in the past 15 years racing in the ALMS series.
Racing at LeMans, IMSA, F1, with production based cars is what gives you bang for the buck in racing. There is all kinds of technology on the new Corvette that is a direct result of things learned by the Corvette racing team in the past 15 years racing in the ALMS series.
02-22-16, 11:10 AM
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1st Daytona 500 win, Podium Sweep and 4 of the top 5. Pretty impressive work.
To Aron9000's point, does this help legitimize the Toyota brand in the eyes of the Nascar set? Personally I'm not sure, but I'm sure Toyota has enough data analysis and metrics of consumer perception to help justify the continued expenses. It's a unique element from other import brands, etc.
To Aron9000's point, does this help legitimize the Toyota brand in the eyes of the Nascar set? Personally I'm not sure, but I'm sure Toyota has enough data analysis and metrics of consumer perception to help justify the continued expenses. It's a unique element from other import brands, etc.
02-22-16, 11:39 AM
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it's brand re-enforcement, and it works.people will have a positive view of toyota from this even though of course they don't expect to be in a camry they're considering.
and while a corvette might benefit from gm's racing involvement, maybe it doesn't help sell malibu's as much.
02-22-16, 12:44 PM
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I still think Toyota is flushing money down the toilet advertising in NASCAR. They aren't really racing IMO, its a spec series with technology that has nothing to do with production cars, the only real benefit is getting the Toyota name out there.
Racing at LeMans, IMSA, F1, with production based cars is what gives you bang for the buck in racing. There is all kinds of technology on the new Corvette that is a direct result of things learned by the Corvette racing team in the past 15 years racing in the ALMS series.
Racing at LeMans, IMSA, F1, with production based cars is what gives you bang for the buck in racing. There is all kinds of technology on the new Corvette that is a direct result of things learned by the Corvette racing team in the past 15 years racing in the ALMS series.
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I still think Toyota is flushing money down the toilet advertising in NASCAR. They aren't really racing IMO, its a spec series with technology that has nothing to do with production cars, the only real benefit is getting the Toyota name out there.
Racing at LeMans, IMSA, F1, with production based cars is what gives you bang for the buck in racing. There is all kinds of technology on the new Corvette that is a direct result of things learned by the Corvette racing team in the past 15 years racing in the ALMS series.
Racing at LeMans, IMSA, F1, with production based cars is what gives you bang for the buck in racing. There is all kinds of technology on the new Corvette that is a direct result of things learned by the Corvette racing team in the past 15 years racing in the ALMS series.
02-22-16, 02:04 PM
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With all due respect, IMO, NASCAR is the only motorsport where, especially on the big super-speedway tracks like Daytona/Talladega (and Indianapolis) cars can truly race.....and even then, they are sometimes hamstrung by carb-restrictor plates. But most road courses, IMO, are not true races but simply acceleration/cornering/braking contests.
02-22-16, 02:50 PM
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NASCAR speeds, which can approach 200 MPH even with restrictor-plates, require a LOT of skill in drafting, aerodynamics, and taking curves three and even 4-abreast without hitting or sliding into the guy next to you, inches away, and starting a 20-car pileup. In addition, tires wear so fast, and so much gas is used, that the car's weight, tire-traction, and handling characteristics are constantly changing, requiring ever-changing driver-finesse in how he (or, with Danica Patrick, she), deftly handles the wheel and throttle.
02-22-16, 03:07 PM
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Exactly. NASCAR speeds, which can approach 200 MPH even with restrictor-plates, require a LOT of skill in drafting, aerodynamics, and taking curves three and even 4-abreast without hitting or sliding into the guy next to you, inches away, and starting a 20-car pileup. In addition, tires wear so fast, and so much gas is used, that the car's weight, tire-traction, and handling characteristics are constantly changing, requiring ever-changing driver-finesse in how he (or, with Danica Patrick, she), deftly handles the wheel and throttle.
NASCAR speeds, which can approach 200 MPH even with restrictor-plates, require a LOT of skill in drafting, aerodynamics, and taking curves three and even 4-abreast without hitting or sliding into the guy next to you, inches away, and starting a 20-car pileup. In addition, tires wear so fast, and so much gas is used, that the car's weight, tire-traction, and handling characteristics are constantly changing, requiring ever-changing driver-finesse in how he (or, with Danica Patrick, she), deftly handles the wheel and throttle.
02-22-16, 03:29 PM
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My experience, though, is that it's (relatively) rare to see big pile-ups on the road courses like on the big super-speedways where people are going around corners 3 and 4 abreast at 200 MPH. Of course, I'm sure there are cases of it....I know you wouldn't have posted if there weren't. Also, F1 cars have much better downforce and resistance to aerodynamic problems than the typical 9though still heavily-modified) Winston Cup or NASCAR machine. F1 cars, in effect, are essentially reverse-airplanes. The NASCAR Craftsman series, with the modified pick-ups, are some of the most difficult machines of all to drive....they have higher centers of gravity.
02-22-16, 07:23 PM
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NASCAR is significant because it is the racing series, more than any other in the United States, that the common Joe can relate to. What can be more common than "stock car" racing? Granted, NASCAR is no longer truly stock car racing -- all engines are built to common and very tight specifications, and all car bodies are the same, with the only differentiation being automaker brand and sponsor stickers, but what can be more stock than racing Toyota "Camrys" against Ford "Fusions" against Chevy "SS"?
If any automaker wants to be seen as "all-American" and sell mid-size cars to common Americans, they have to race in NASCAR.
If any automaker wants to be seen as "all-American" and sell mid-size cars to common Americans, they have to race in NASCAR.