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Um, there most definitely IS a 2014 IS-F lol. It's the rarest of them all.
and yes, the LC500 has more HP than the ISF, but the ISF has a faster 0-60 time and faster 1/4 mile time as well.��
Besides the motor being the same, I don't think the ISF and LC500 are comparable cars. Having a '12 ISF, nothing about the LC500 interest me enough to drop anywhere near 6 figures on it. Now in a few years when the LC-F comes along, I'm quite sure that'll be a whole nother ball game! Patiently waiting!
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the 2014's sold are leftovers lol
we won't know if the ISF is faster or not until enough tests by reviewers are done on actual production models of the LC500 I think ......
The LC500 and the Lincoln Continental are two (albeit very different) cars I am interested to see what they can become when custom shops and tuners get a hold of them. Both easily have potential for over 500hp, and would look good with a mild drop and more aggressive custom wheel setups.
the 2014's sold are leftovers lol
we won't know if the ISF is faster or not until enough tests by reviewers are done on actual production models of the LC500 I think ......
Um, there most definitely IS a 2014 IS-F lol. It's the rarest of them all.
and yes, the LC500 has more HP than the ISF, but the ISF has a faster 0-60 time and faster 1/4 mile time as well.😉
Besides the motor being the same, I don't think the ISF and LC500 are comparable cars. Having a '12 ISF, nothing about the LC500 interest me enough to drop anywhere near 6 figures on it. Now in a few years when the LC-F comes along, I'm quite sure that'll be a whole nother ball game! Patiently waiting!
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I don't get what the obsession is on the IS-F and comparing it to the LC500. Two different types of buyers. The LC will do well for Lexus, yes there are some criticisms to be made, but it will do well.
The 4280lb curb weight quoted in the article on the LC500 is exactly 500lbs heavier than the 3780 curb weight specified for the 2014 IS-F which has the same V8 motor and another 2 doors. Like I said, the LC500 is overweight.....by about 500lbs.
The 4280lb curb weight quoted in the article on the LC500 is exactly 500lbs heavier than the 3780 curb weight specified for the 2014 IS-F which has the same V8 motor and another 2 doors. Like I said, the LC500 is overweight.....by about 500lbs.
Why is the LC heavier than the IS? The LC and IS are two different types of cars and two different sizes of car. You cannot compare the mid-/full-size, grand-touring hardtop coupe LC and the compact 4-door sedan IS. The LC is a larger car than the IS and it is a hardtop coupe. Two-door hardtop coupes are generally heavier than their sedan counterparts. They are stiffened to prevent less twisting and flexing, which gives the suspension a solid foundation to work off; and because frameless door windows on hardtops do not seal as well as framed door windows, you do not want the body flexing and possibly opening up gaps between the door window and the body. Stiffening adds material which adds weight.
If you want to compare the LC (a brand new car on a brand new platform), compare it to the yet-to-be-introduced LS, which will be its full-size sedan counterpart.
The 4280lb curb weight quoted in the article on the LC500 is exactly 500lbs heavier than the 3780 curb weight specified for the 2014 IS-F which has the same V8 motor and another 2 doors. Like I said, the LC500 is overweight.....by about 500lbs.
I'd like to hear your thoughts how Lexus could cut 500 pounds, what did the engineers do wrong?
I'd like to hear your thoughts how Lexus could cut 500 pounds,
Well, IMO, they could start by making it a classic 2-seater instead of a 2+2. In all but the very largest coupes, the rear seats are all but worthless for adults anyway....usually suitable for nothing more than a package shelf, or for small children at the most.
Well, IMO, they could start by making it a classic 2-seater instead of a 2+2. In all but the very largest coupes, the rear seats are all but worthless for adults anyway....usually suitable for nothing more than a package shelf, or for small children at the most.
Except then it would be compared to the Corvette and other true sports cars and would still be 500lbs too heavy.
Well, IMO, they could start by making it a classic 2-seater instead of a 2+2. In all but the very largest coupes, the rear seats are all but worthless for adults anyway....usually suitable for nothing more than a package shelf, or for small children at the most.
The reason they do this is for insurance classification. Those rear seats save the owners money, and they're there for use in a pinch if they need them.
Well, IMO, they could start by making it a classic 2-seater instead of a 2+2. In all but the very largest coupes, the rear seats are all but worthless for adults anyway....usually suitable for nothing more than a package shelf, or for small children at the most.
The light ultra performance sports car segment will be filled by the Supra. Also removing the rear seats is not going to shave off 500 pounds.
The reason they do this is for insurance classification. Those rear seats save the owners money, and they're there for use in a pinch if they need them.
Do you really think Toyota had customers insurance premium in mind when designing this 100k+ car? Lmaoo
Do you really think Toyota had customers insurance premium in mind when designing this 100k+ car? Lmaoo
These seemingly minor things that change a car's classification are important to a brand. The rear seat inclusion (just like in the SC430) is similar to the reasoning why the USDM NX has the awkward looking front bumper compared to the rest of the world markets. To be classified as what it is, the NX needed to have a specific amount of front ground clearance.
These seemingly minor things that change a car's classification are important to a brand. The rear seat inclusion (just like in the SC430) is similar to the reasoning why the USDM NX has the awkward looking front bumper compared to the rest of the world markets. To be classified as what it is, the NX needed to have a specific amount of front ground clearance.
Do you really think Toyota had customers insurance premium in mind when designing this 100k+ car? Lmaoo
Absolutely. Its not just Toyota at all, that is why luxury coupes like that build in back seats in the first place, its insurance classification and classification for road taxes etc in other countries.
Why do you think a Porsche 911 has back seats? Thats why. Its also the reasons things are how they that the other members posted about above.
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