Driver Who Swerved And Hit A Motorcycle: 'I Don't Care' (UPDATE: 15 yrs prison time)
10-22-15, 06:08 PM
#136
Hold on. What did I judge? Nothing. I am claiming there is not enough data to judge here whereas everyone else including the police are trigger happy and want to judge and sentence mr.crum for manslaughter.
10-22-15, 06:09 PM
#137
Lexus Fanatic
Driver Who Swerved And Hit A Motorcycle: 'I Don't Care'
A video of the entire thing is pretty strong evidence lol
It's like me punching a guy and you saying that it's okay because I might have meant to punch the air right next to the guys head.
It's like me punching a guy and you saying that it's okay because I might have meant to punch the air right next to the guys head.
10-22-15, 06:11 PM
#138
So there is no reason one can swerve on the road? It is only an intentional maneuver?
10-22-15, 06:14 PM
#139
Lexus Fanatic
I agree it may be difficult to actually prove intent. But, IMO, what is probably more applicable than intent in this case is that he didn't care that he almost killed two people. That alone shows that he may not be fit to be behind the wheel.
10-22-15, 06:22 PM
#140
Lexus Fanatic
Driver Who Swerved And Hit A Motorcycle: 'I Don't Care'
Originally Posted by chikoo
So there is no reason one can swerve on the road? It is only an intentional maneuver?
I think if you had done such a thing by mistake and you found that you caused that accident, your reaction wouldn't be that.
10-22-15, 06:22 PM
#141
Even the bike rider cared more about confronting mr.crum than check on the health of his passenger. Says a lot about both the parties involved. They are made for each other.
10-22-15, 06:26 PM
#142
Sure there is, but to do that in the exact instant that a motorcycle is overtaking them illegally on the left, and his reaction was "I don't care" and "they crossed the double yellow line"...I think any reasonable person would come to the conclusion that this was deliberate.
I think if you had done such a thing by mistake and you found that you caused that accident, your reaction wouldn't be that.
I think if you had done such a thing by mistake and you found that you caused that accident, your reaction wouldn't be that.
10-22-15, 06:41 PM
#143
Lexus Fanatic
Perhaps the hijackers on 9/11 were just trying to fly to Long Island? After all, how can we know for sure what their intentions were?
This is absurd. Unsubscribed.
This is absurd. Unsubscribed.
Last edited by SW17LS; 10-22-15 at 06:45 PM.
10-22-15, 07:25 PM
#144
10-22-15, 07:28 PM
#145
Lexus Test Driver
10-22-15, 07:30 PM
#146
Lexus Test Driver
You can't claim there is not enough data, and also draw a conclusion. It's one thing to say "We don't know what happened." But you are saying that he did nothing wrong--you can't see the difference?
10-23-15, 02:56 AM
#147
Lexus Champion
How about you look at the video again before making all YOUR assumptions.
10-23-15, 06:03 AM
#148
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Wow, you are so far detached from reality it is not funny. The guy following approached the driver , not the guy who got hit. Also , the guy who approached the driver asked him first and for most, "What were you doing, you hit them." then the guy old guy said he didn't care.
How about you look at the video again before making all YOUR assumptions.
How about you look at the video again before making all YOUR assumptions.
These "wanna be" internet lawyers are really something.
1) Driver swerves hitting the bikers right on point (coincidence?) I say NO!
2) Driver himself said he didn't care when confronted. This only tells you it was all premeditated.
3) So lets say it was not premeditated, why didn't the driver not even run and check on the bikers he just hit? That would be the first thing anyone would do as it was a pure accident.....it was not an accident that is why he never bothered to check on them.
4) The video is all the evidence the jurors would need as it has a clear picture of how things went down including the "I don't care" reaction of the driver.
Last edited by 5gears-IS; 10-23-15 at 07:54 AM.
10-23-15, 06:13 AM
#149
As a cyclist, my initial reaction to this event is to agree the cager needs to be arrested and pay for the damages. I always identify with anyone on two wheels. But after viewing the video and reading the text of the story, wow, that biker is so far in the wrong this one is going to be difficult. They may have arrested Mr. Crum and he probably intended to scare the biker, resulting in an accident, but proving that in a court of law where it will require 12 jurors to agree that he wasn't bitten by an insect and didn't intend to cross the double yellow while watching the biker put his passenger at risk is really reaching. He may have been charged, they might even go to trial, but if he keeps his mouth shut from here on in, I don't see him being found guilty. The "I don't care" statement might swing the balance, but with 12 jurors, it only takes one person who hates everything riding on two wheels to say not guilty and its a hung jury. I'm betting he pleads to a lesser charge and the whole thing goes away. Ironically, the video also hurts the biker's chances for a law suit because he contributed to the situation with two major traffic violations that are easily proven by the video. If either party has some deep pockets, the only winners will be the lawyers.
10-23-15, 06:28 AM
#150
Lexus Fanatic
The "I don't care" statement might swing the balance, but with 12 jurors, it only takes one person who hates everything riding on two wheels to say not guilty and its a hung jury. I'm betting he pleads to a lesser charge and the whole thing goes away. Ironically, the video also hurts the biker's chances for a law suit because he contributed to the situation with two major traffic violations that are easily proven by the video. If either party has some deep pockets, the only winners will be the lawyers.
