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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 11:08 AM
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The new instrument cluster and nav interface look pretty cool, but overall I'd like to thank Lexus for minimizing any potential buyer's remorse I might have had with my '15 GS
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 01:10 PM
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I found something both interesting and confusing on Wikipedia.

I had been thinking that the new 3.5-litre V6 in the facelifted GS would incorporate VVT-iW, the new on-demand Atkinson and Otto cycle valvetrain. What I found on Wikipedia would seem to confirm this as the new 2GR-FKS engine.

What is confusing is that Wikipedia states that the new 2GR-FKS (presumably: F - narrow head, KS - VVTi-W with on-demand Atkinson and Otto cycles) is in the new Tacoma and in the new facelifted GS (but with different power outputs). But I also found a completely new 7GR listed on Wikipedia, which is described as the new engine in the new RX 350.

So why are there 2 different engines (different engine name but similar displacement) described. Could it be that 2GR is a typo and it should be 7GR? The new 7GR engine name would be logical, describing a new V6 engine based upon the existing GR engine block family.

2GR-FKS

The 2GR-FKS combines the D-4S system from the 2GR-FSE with the simulated on-demand Atkinson cycle used in the 2UR-GSE and 8AR-FTS engines. Early specification sheets posted online for the 2016 model year Tacoma list 207 kW (278 hp) at 6000 rpm and 359 N·m (265 lb·ft) at 4600 rpm.[8] In 2015, for the 2016 model year, the Lexus GS350 got the revised 2GR-FKS with 232 kW (311 hp) at 6400 rpm and 380 N·m (280 lb·ft) at 4800 rpm respectively.

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2015 Toyota Tacoma (GRN305/310/325/330)
2015 Lexus GS (L10)


7GR

The 7GR is 3.5L (3456 cc) version. Allegedly will utilize the new D-4S, VVT-ie, and simulated Atkinson cycle. Power numbers have not been released by Toyota.

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2015 Lexus RX350 (2016 model year)
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
pman6 - isnt that dual tailgate?

As to BMW looking homogeneous - yes, it looks vanilla, just like how 2013 MY GS looks now.


oh it is? my bad.


I wouldn't call the bmw vanilla. It looks sportier than most.
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
pman6 - isnt that dual tailgate?

As to BMW looking homogeneous - yes, it looks vanilla, just like how 2013 MY GS looks now.
LOL - these are supposed to be Executive Sport sedans that have classy styling yet look purposeful at the same time. Its a difficult thing to pull off.

Im biased but the current F10 5 Series in Msport trim is as perfect as you can get and the body style will still look great 10 yrs from now.

The GS looks good from most angles but the new front is way too cartoonish and looks out of place for its target market.

The new Genesis is a great example of a well executed design that will look great even 10yrs from now. It has a commanding prescence in person.
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 02:41 PM
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In 10 years consumers will be used to the 'new Lexus'. Might as well change and implement now and refine for the future. Let's face it the original LS400 buyers are gone or will be gone soon anyway (mostly Boomers). There is a whole new generation to go after now (late Generation X, Generation Y/Millennials and Generation Z)
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 04:23 PM
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The 2016 Lexus GS is Coming to Europe with a New Model and More Power



When the 2016 Lexus GS line of sedans lands in European dealerships, customers will have the ability to choose from four variants of the mid-sizer.

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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 04:38 PM
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Oh my!!!!!! ......that front end is polarizing for sure. Lexus has really stepped out there with this new design theme. I'm just happy they've gone rogue, whether I like it or not.
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 04:43 PM
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I find it funny how the video (2:26 mark) shows mpg after reset to be 14.5mpg. Could they not get a more realistic number? lol.
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 06:09 PM
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Yea, yea, yea... But does it have a sunglass holder?
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by obturator
Yea, yea, yea... But does it have a sunglass holder?
Nope lol the war continues.
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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by GSteg
I find it funny how the video (2:26 mark) shows mpg after reset to be 14.5mpg. Could they not get a more realistic number? lol.
it is always the same in their press pics, usually it is horrible mpg :-)

I have noticed the same in their small hybrid pics, let alone Lexus.
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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Sulu
I found something both interesting and confusing on Wikipedia.

I had been thinking that the new 3.5-litre V6 in the facelifted GS would incorporate VVT-iW, the new on-demand Atkinson and Otto cycle valvetrain. What I found on Wikipedia would seem to confirm this as the new 2GR-FKS engine.

What is confusing is that Wikipedia states that the new 2GR-FKS (presumably: F - narrow head, KS - VVTi-W with on-demand Atkinson and Otto cycles) is in the new Tacoma and in the new facelifted GS (but with different power outputs). But I also found a completely new 7GR listed on Wikipedia, which is described as the new engine in the new RX 350.

So why are there 2 different engines (different engine name but similar displacement) described. Could it be that 2GR is a typo and it should be 7GR? The new 7GR engine name would be logical, describing a new V6 engine based upon the existing GR engine block family.



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I think 7GR was just a rumor written on the wiki.. afterall, it is edited by people like you and me, not someone who is definitive authority on the matter.

I sure hope 2GR in GS includes latest tech, Lexus did not mention that anywhere nor did they mention MPG increase that comes with it.
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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 06:31 AM
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Looks good overall in the dark gray (which makes the snout less noticeable)

But no sunglasses holder huh?
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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sulu
I found something both interesting and confusing on Wikipedia.

I had been thinking that the new 3.5-litre V6 in the facelifted GS would incorporate VVT-iW, the new on-demand Atkinson and Otto cycle valvetrain. What I found on Wikipedia would seem to confirm this as the new 2GR-FKS engine.

What is confusing is that Wikipedia states that the new 2GR-FKS (presumably: F - narrow head, KS - VVTi-W with on-demand Atkinson and Otto cycles) is in the new Tacoma and in the new facelifted GS (but with different power outputs). But I also found a completely new 7GR listed on Wikipedia, which is described as the new engine in the new RX 350.

So why are there 2 different engines (different engine name but similar displacement) described. Could it be that 2GR is a typo and it should be 7GR? The new 7GR engine name would be logical, describing a new V6 engine based upon the existing GR engine block family.



Source: Wikipedia
Based on Motortrend's review of the Tacoma, the 3.5L has the same cooling system as a Turbo engine would. Perhaps, this will be the basis for future Turbo six cylinders?
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Old Aug 18, 2015 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 1QWKGS4
When you think things couldn't get any worse.. Though i wasn't much a fan of the previous Spindle grill, this MORE Aggressive move towards differentiating the GS as "Special" has just tipped the scales. I'm going to literally need Anti-Nausea medication every time I go in for service.. I mean like REALLY? This is the Best they got??



And going with a GS200t is like getting yourself neutered.. OMG.. So There will be a GS-F, a GS350 with 311 HP Whoopee.. and a GS200t... It was like when Infiniti put in a G25.. Great for leasing but ridiculous for the Marque Branding of such a hot car in its class..


I think the 200t is okay for car like the CT and IS, but a GS with "200" badge is shameful..
It's never shameful to use 2.0L powerplant. CLA/GLA 45AMG make 380hp from 2.0L, Golf R 400 will be making close to 400hp. Evo has been making 300hp from the 2.0L like forever. As long as they know how to ultilize the turbo small displacement engine, I don't think it's shameful to use it. In this case, Toyota doesn't really do a good job with their engine.
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