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Old 07-20-15, 07:45 AM
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The Incredible Disappearing American-Made Car
The Fiscal Times By Beth Braverman
July 19, 2015 8:15 AM
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It used to be easy to buy an American car: You’d go to the lot, pick out a vehicle built by the Big Three and drive home confident that you’d made the patriotic choice.

These days, it’s much more complicated. One of the Big Three is no longer headquartered in America, and the vast majority of their cars are built from imported parts. It’s tough to pin down the nationality of a Chrysler which is now owned by an Italian company headquartered in the United Kingdom.

The recently released 2015 American-Made Index from Cars.com, which ranks cars with at least 75 percent domestic content, has just seven cars on it. That’s down from 29 cars five years ago.

The top-ranking vehicle, the Toyota Camry, may be made by a Japanese manufacturer, but it rolls off of assembly lines in Georgetown, Ky., and Lafayette, Ind.

“People have to figure out what their definition of an American made car is,” says Carol Lachnit, features editor at Edmunds.com. “Does that mean a car that is made in America? Because cars that are made in America may not be made by American companies.”

Related: Wanted in 2015: A Car No One Else Has

Contributing to the economy
Those “non-American” cars are a major factor in the U.S. economy. Japanese car manufacturers and dealers were responsible for 1.36 million job in 2013, 10 percent more than in 2011, according to a paper by Rutgers professor Thomas Prusa. Those jobs pay American workers more than $85 billion.

Japanese manufacturers aren’t the only foreign auto producers creating American jobs. BMW announced last year that it would invest a $1 billion in its South Carolina plant, making it its biggest factory in the world.

Nearly three-quarters of the cars produced at the BMW factory are sold overseas. U.S. auto exports in general are increasing. Last year more than 2.1 million American built cars were sold overseas, The Wall Street Journal reports.

Even as the trend toward automakers using more imported parts grows, the number of cars being assembled in the United States is increasing. Last year, American auto plants assembled more than 100 models of new cars, according to Cars.com. That’s partly due to the weak dollar in recent years (and may change given is newfound strength), and partly due to the weakened power of unions following the Great Recession. The Asian and European factories in the South are largely not unionized.

Wages for autoworkers generally are on the decline. Employees at motor vehicle manufacturing plants earned a median $24.83 per hour in 2013, down 21 percent in the past decade, and employees at parts manufacturers earned an average $15.83, down 13.73 percent over 10 years, according to a November report by the National Employment Law Project.


Finding American-made cars
Three of the four top cars on the American Made Index came from Honda and Toyota. The Ford F-150, which was the top vehicle on the list last year, fell of entirely, since the 2015 model gets more parts from overseas. Consumers interested in learning where a car was assembled can check the VIN. If it starts with a 1, 4, or 5, you can be confident that auto was assembled in a U.S.-based plant.

That may not satisfy consumers who want a vehicle comprised of American made parts. They’ll have to do some research on their own, since the American Automobile Labeling Act, which certifies car as being made in America with an AALA sticker, is a notoriously poor indicator of a car’s actual origin. “The badge on the car doesn’t necessarily represent the Americanness of it,” says Kelsey Mays, senior consumer affairs editor for Cars.com.

Instead, consumers could check the Cars.com index or the Kogod School of Business

Made in America Auto Index, which ranks cars based on where their parts are assembled as well as the location of their global headquarters and where the company conducts research and development. The top-ranking 2015 car on that index is the Buick Enclave.

Frank DuBois, the creator of the list, says that even in the halcyon days of the 1960s, when consumers purchased an Oldsmobile or a Chevy as a patriotic duty, cars weren’t entirely American-made. “Where did the rubber in the tires come from?” he asks.

The desire for American-made cars has grown in recent years, but it’s nowhere near what it was when Asian imports remade the automotive landscape in the 1980s and 1990s with cheaper, better vehicles. Twenty-eight percent of consumers recently told Cars.com that they want American made cars, up from 23 percent four years ago.

Regardless of where they’re built, sales of cars in the United States are booming. The National Automobile Dealers Association predicts that sales of new cars will hit 17.17 million this year, up for the sixth consecutive year.


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Unfortunately, there's still a fair amount of ignorance in the pubic on this issue. I'm sorry to say that I once had to reprimand and debunk my own uncle for this once. He has since passed away, but he lived in a small town in Indiana, and dropped by here in D.C. several years ago to see me and my brother. When he saw that my brother (at the time) was driving a Honda Civic, and me a Subaru Outback, he lit into us for doing something that was "Downright Un-American". His automotive mind, in many ways, was clearly 50 years in the past. I calmly (and politely) but firmly pointed out to him that many Hondas are American-built, with American labor, and that Subarus, including my own Outback, were built at Lafayette, Indiana, in his home state......not very far from his home town, as a matter of fact.

That pretty much did the trick............it opened up even his eyes. No more un-American comments after that.

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Interesting data. If you consolidate badge-engineered corporate siblings, you wind up with 5 unique vehicles from 3 manufacturers:

Toyota (Camry and Sienna)
Honda (Odyssey)
GM (Chevy Corvette and the Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia/Buick Enclave triplets)
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The Mexico manufacturing bothers me.
The US has a lousy relationship with Mexico because of the corruption with politicians,police,border etc.
However,$$$ talks and that's all that matters.
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Originally Posted by geko29
Interesting data. If you consolidate badge-engineered corporate siblings, you wind up with 5 unique vehicles from 3 manufacturers:

Toyota (Camry and Sienna)
Honda (Odyssey)
GM (Chevy Corvette and the Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia/Buick Enclave triplets)
How? True, the three GM SUVs are related, and the Camry and Sienna are done on the same general platform, but how are the Corvette and Odyssey related to the others? Are those typos, or is that what you meant?
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
How? True, the three GM SUVs are related, and the Camry and Sienna are done on the same general platform, but how are the Corvette and Odyssey related to the others? Are those typos, or is that what you meant?
I said 5 vehicles from 3 manufacturers, not 3/3.

3 manufacturers:

Toyota
Honda
GM

5 vehicles:

Camry (Toyota)
Sienna (Toyota)
Odyssey (Honda)
Corvette (GM)
Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia/Buick Enclave (GM)
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Originally Posted by geko29
I said 5 vehicles from 3 manufacturers, not 3/3.

3 manufacturers:

Toyota
Honda
GM

5 vehicles:

Camry (Toyota)
Sienna (Toyota)
Odyssey (Honda)
Corvette (GM)
Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia/Buick Enclave (GM)
OK....I agree you've got 3 different manufacturers, but I still don't see what you are getting at. There are many interrelated and rebadged vehicles in the auto industry besides those, even those built here in the U.S.

If I am missing something here, please explain it............like I had to do with my own uncle.

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another irrelevant article. it's a global market. products use parts and labor from everywhere.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
another irrelevant article. it's a global market. products use parts and labor from everywhere.
I wouldn't say entirely irrelevant....just telling us things that are not new anymore. The globalization of the auto industry has been around for decades. I'd consider the roots back in the 1980s, when the Big Three decided that if you can't beat them, join them. And, in fact, back then the Big Three couldn't beat them. The quality and workmanship of the average American-designed, Detroit-badged vehicle back then was a disgrace. In fact, IMO, I myself put up with it too long before I switched to Mazda.
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
The Mexico manufacturing bothers me.
The US has a lousy relationship with Mexico because of the corruption with politicians,police,border etc.
However,$$$ talks and that's all that matters.
Donald? is that you?
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Originally Posted by My0gr81
Donald? is that you?


Not a fan of Donald for President but it is refreshing to see someone who isn't afraid to not be politically correct today.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
OK....I agree you've got 3 different manufacturers, but I still don't see what you are getting at. There are many interrelated and rebadged vehicles in the auto industry besides those, even those built here in the U.S.

If I am missing something here, please explain it............like I had to do with my own uncle.
The article referenced 7 vehicle nameplates that met both the following two criteria:

1. Assembled in the US
2. Made from a minimum of 75% US Domestic content

I was pointing out that 3 of these 7 are, in fact, the same vehicle--built on the same assembly line in the same factory in Lansing, Michigan--with different badges on the hood. So really it's just 5 unique vehicles that meet the above two criteria.
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Do you want an All American Car or a better EPS?
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Unfortunately, there's still a fair amount of ignorance in the pubic on this issue. I'm sorry to say that I once had to reprimand and debunk my own uncle for this once. He has since passed away, but he lived in a small town in Indiana, and dropped by here in D.C. several years ago to see me and my brother. When he saw that my brother (at the time) was driving a Honda Civic, and me a Subaru Outback, he lit into us for doing something that was "Downright Un-American". His automotive mind, in many ways, was clearly 50 years in the past. I calmly (and politely) but firmly pointed out to him that many Hondas are American-built, with American labor, and that Subarus, including my own Outback, were built at Lafayette, Indiana, in his home state......not very far from his home town, as a matter of fact.

That pretty much did the trick............it opened up even his eyes. No more un-American comments after that.
When I usually tell people this usually the next comment is "Well, the profits still go to Japan, etc"
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Originally Posted by SC300Es
When I usually tell people this usually the next comment is "Well, the profits still go to Japan, etc"

So true!
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