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pman6 Jul 6, 2015 04:58 PM

lexus drivers don't need no stinkin self park
 
self parallel parking has trickled down to the mainstream cars in addition to other luxury brands.

ford focus, mercedes, and a few others.

At the same time, dmv driving tests have slowly eliminated parallel parking such that future drivers won't even know how to park on a street anymore.


But lexus has entirely abandoned it. What's up with that

RXSF Jul 6, 2015 05:05 PM

I dont know why, but they need to bring it back because BMW is already coming out with completely self driving cars without a driver in the seat in the new 7 series. Not sure how the company that invented self parking cars stopped making it an option. This tech has trickled down to lower models very quickly though in other brands

spwolf Jul 6, 2015 06:57 PM

they just introduced new version on some new vehicle in Japan few months ago... some cars in europe like Auris have it standard on higher levels of equipment too.... i am having my doubts that they will go crazy with it in the usa with all the lawsuits possible.

pman6 Jul 6, 2015 07:59 PM

luxury is supposed to be about excess... features you don't need but buy anyway.

Lexus is missing quite a bit of that excess.

Hoovey689 Jul 6, 2015 08:03 PM

The 2007 LS460 self park feature was needlessly complex. Perhaps try round two with a new system on the 5LS?

Nextourer Jul 7, 2015 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Hoovey2411 (Post 9103338)
The 2007 LS460 self park feature was needlessly complex. Perhaps try round two with a new system on the 5LS?

And that's Gen 2. They got rid of the "play-by-play" voice guidance from the Gen 1 system on the Prius.

The Gen 3 system on the 2010-2011 Prius (2012-2015 Prius v) has a Pre-Support feature that guides the driver on where to position the car for a quicker setup. Assuming the bumper hasn't been damaged (out of alignment) and the driver follows the instruction, you basically just stop, shift to reverse, double check it's all green and then press OK. No need to adjust the box.

mmarshall Jul 7, 2015 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by pman6 (Post 9103119)
self parallel parking has trickled down to the mainstream cars in addition to other luxury brands.

ford focus, mercedes, and a few others.

At the same time, dmv driving tests have slowly eliminated parallel parking such that future drivers won't even know how to park on a street anymore.


But lexus has entirely abandoned it. What's up with that

Probably because more and more streets are getting this:

http://gbcast.com/livewriter/nsw/now.../noparking.jpg

pbm317 Jul 7, 2015 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Nextourer (Post 9104300)
And that's Gen 2. They got rid of the "play-by-play" voice guidance from the Gen 1 system on the Prius.

The Gen 3 system on the 2010-2011 Prius (2012-2015 Prius v) has a Pre-Support feature that guides the driver on where to position the car for a quicker setup. Assuming the bumper hasn't been damaged (out of alignment) and the driver follows the instruction, you basically just stop, shift to reverse, double check it's all green and then press OK. No need to adjust the box.

But even that is still way more complicated than many systems offered on other OEMs, even basic mainstream vehicles. You simply press a button, some let you toggle between parallel vs. perpendicular parking, then you drive slowly, and once it finds a spot, it alerts you, and then you can let the car take over.

Nextourer Jul 7, 2015 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by pbm317 (Post 9104465)
But even that is still way more complicated than many systems offered on other OEMs, even basic mainstream vehicles. You simply press a button, some let you toggle between parallel vs. perpendicular parking, then you drive slowly, and once it finds a spot, it alerts you, and then you can let the car take over.

You pretty much described the Pre-Support function of the APGS :) (Aside from the last bit about the car taking over. Toyota's system only controls the steering wheel, not the accelerator/brake like MB or Ford).

Toyota's system will let you choose between parallel or perpendicular park (either side of the car).


spwolf Jul 7, 2015 06:11 PM

Since you like these so much, here you go my friend :-).

Latest system will also get out of the parking spot for you and it will employ auto-brake system to stop parking lot accidents. Also, parking maneuvers can be more complicated and in tighter space, multiple turns are now possible. It uses both parking sensors and camera.


Also available for the first time in the world1 is Intelligent Parking Assist 22, which uses ultrasonic sensors and a camera to detect parking spaces. By working in tandem with the Intelligent Clearance Sonar, the system uses automatic braking to avoid collisions and mitigate collision damage. Parking has been made significantly easier through the addition of a new multi-point turn support function15 that automatically operates the steering wheel, and a parallel parking departure support function15 that supports steering wheel operation when leaving a tight parallel parking space.


RXSF Jul 7, 2015 07:51 PM

the new MB system will also get you out

pman6 Jul 7, 2015 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by spwolf (Post 9104656)
Since you like these so much, here you go my friend :-).

Latest system will also get out of the parking spot for you and it will employ auto-brake system to stop parking lot accidents. Also, parking maneuvers can be more complicated and in tighter space, multiple turns are now possible. It uses both parking sensors and camera.



ALPHARD インテリジェントパーã‚*ングアシスト2 - YouTube


right. works great.

So they should add it to the lexus line up.

Nextourer Jul 7, 2015 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by spwolf (Post 9104656)
Since you like these so much, here you go my friend :-).

Latest system will also get out of the parking spot for you and it will employ auto-brake system to stop parking lot accidents. Also, parking maneuvers can be more complicated and in tighter space, multiple turns are now possible. It uses both parking sensors and camera.



ALPHARD インテリジェントパーã‚*ングアシスト2 - YouTube

lol. Yeah I saw that in the Toyota Global Newsroom.


Here's the English video.


tex2670 Jul 8, 2015 05:00 AM


Originally Posted by pman6 (Post 9103119)
self parallel parking has trickled down to the mainstream cars in addition to other luxury brands.

ford focus, mercedes, and a few others.

At the same time, dmv driving tests have slowly eliminated parallel parking such that future drivers won't even know how to park on a street anymore.


But lexus has entirely abandoned it. What's up with that

They decided it's an important life skill you need to know how to do. They are eliminating automatic transmissions next...

pbm317 Jul 8, 2015 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Nextourer (Post 9104596)
You pretty much described the Pre-Support function of the APGS :) (Aside from the last bit about the car taking over. Toyota's system only controls the steering wheel, not the accelerator/brake like MB or Ford).

Toyota's system will let you choose between parallel or perpendicular park (either side of the car).

I know Toyota's system very well. That's still a bit more involved than some of the systems I've used.

In either case, I still can do it faster on my own haha.


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