View Poll Results: What should the next LS go after?
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Next Lexus LS (2018 model)
#1906
Lexus Fanatic
For instance to buy a Lincoln I can go down the street to Sheehy Ford/Lincoln, I can go to Koons Ford/Lincoln in Silver Spring. To drive a G90 I had to drive all the way to Chantilly, VA, which is rush hour is over an hour from me, with no traffic its a solid 40-45 minutes. Not a lot of buyers would do that.
You've got one advantage, though, in MD, that I don't have in VA (besides Mitsubishi LOL).....the Fitzgerald dealer-chain. I've always liked the Fitz way of doing business....and so has everyone I've ever shopped with at their stores.
#1907
Lexus Fanatic
The K900 would be superfluous at Genesis. Same issue there though, very few Kia dealers sell the K900
#1908
Lexus Fanatic
Depends, the landscape is very different then it was when Lexus launched the LS400. The standard smooth V8 was launched in response to what Lexus believed to be competitive during that time. Now priorities have changed to a certain degree. With the rapid march to full auto driving, creature comforts, electrification, opulent ikea interiors are whats in.
#1909
Lexus Fanatic
People will pay more, but I think Rhanbler has a point about returning customers. They have to be careful, most LS460s are SWB models that stickered between 75-85k. As one of these customers myself I'm telling you, as Rhambler is and he's telling you, there's a limit to the amount more we'll pay. I'm an $80k customer, I'm not paying $95k. For $95k I will move on to another experience.
#1910
Lexus Champion
People will pay more, but I think Rhanbler has a point about returning customers. They have to be careful, most LS460s are SWB models that stickered between 75-85k. As one of these customers myself I'm telling you, as Rhambler is and he's telling you, there's a limit to the amount more we'll pay. I'm an $80k customer, I'm not paying $95k. For $95k I will move on to another experience.
#1911
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
In this class of car there is very little difference in experience between an $80k car and a $95k car.
When's the last time you bought a car in this class? For me it was 20 months ago. If I'm spending $95k, I'm not in an LS, not even this new LS. Speaking from the armchair is one thing, but when it's your money your value judgements are different. Value is a huge part of the LS' appeal, always has been. The value of my LS is the overall biggest reason it's in my garage, which I think you'll find is true of most owners. $ for $ we'd all rather have an S Class or a 7 Series.
Last edited by SW17LS; 02-18-17 at 11:57 AM.
#1912
Lead Lap
It depends on what makes you differentiate two kinds of cars in the same class. If you think that an 2017 740i is similiar to the current gen or even new gen LS, then thats your prerogative and no amount of option listing would change that. However for others it maybe slightly different. Choice of exotic materials (not saying RR standard, but better then Lexus can), individualized vehicle options, European delivery, self parking and more. Plus if you wait for the end of quarter sales push, certain vehicles make their cases more prominent.
Last edited by coolsaber; 02-18-17 at 12:59 PM.
#1913
Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
In this class of car there is very little difference in experience between an $80k car and a $95k car.
Just an example, but there are definitely tiers above $80K. I think the reasoning of why would I get the Lexus if the Germans are close in price also applies to the Genesis pricing. That is why the price will be key to me.
#1914
Lexus Fanatic
I agree 100%, as an LS owner myself.
#1915
Lexus Fanatic
A BMW 7 series and an S-Class are a tier higher than the Lexus LS460. The next gen LS500 will put Lexus in the same league as the S-class and 7 series.
#1916
Lexus Fanatic
I don't think it will. The LS will always be a step below those cars, a V6 only won't help that.
I'm a huge LS fan clearly and I'm telling you, I'm not going to pay the same price as I would for an S or 7.
I'm a huge LS fan clearly and I'm telling you, I'm not going to pay the same price as I would for an S or 7.
#1917
Lexus Fanatic
#1918
Lexus Fanatic
For those who are doubting a Lexus LS500 price increase.
Consider the following examples:
2008 LX570 $75K base price/2016 LX570 $89,880 base price
2007 LS460 $$61K base price/2016 LS460 $72.5K base price
2007 ES350 $33.8K base price/2016 ES350 $38.5K base price
Consider the following examples:
2008 LX570 $75K base price/2016 LX570 $89,880 base price
2007 LS460 $$61K base price/2016 LS460 $72.5K base price
2007 ES350 $33.8K base price/2016 ES350 $38.5K base price
#1919
2007 Base LS460 - $61,000
2007 Base LS460L - $71,000
2017 Base LS460 - $72,520
2017 Base LS460L - $78,820
2017 Base LS460L AWD - $82,305
2018 Base LS500 will be 1" longer than the current LS L. I'd expect the LS to be low $80K and the AWD to be about $3,500 more.
Also puts it right in line with BMW
$81,500 740i sDrive
$84,500 740i xDrive
2007 Base LS460L - $71,000
2017 Base LS460 - $72,520
2017 Base LS460L - $78,820
2017 Base LS460L AWD - $82,305
2018 Base LS500 will be 1" longer than the current LS L. I'd expect the LS to be low $80K and the AWD to be about $3,500 more.
Also puts it right in line with BMW
$81,500 740i sDrive
$84,500 740i xDrive
#1920
Lexus has a tendency of over playing their hand on pricing. They seem to think they are on par with the Germans but can't seem to move their cars at the same price point. Look no further than the GSF and RCF; people don't expect to pay the same money for a Lexus as they would the Germans.