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Old 05-08-18, 09:27 AM
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regards above post on WA $700 tag/registration annual fee......... they don't have state income tax.
Also, Lexus has a 48 month warranty, so the lease may be negotiated to 48 months?
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Old 05-08-18, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RGSW
regards above post on WA $700 tag/registration annual fee......... they don't have state income tax.
Also, Lexus has a 48 month warranty, so the lease may be negotiated to 48 months?
Indeed, no state income tax. Instead we have high sales tax (over 10%). License tabs were recently increased to pay for mass transit.
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Old 05-08-18, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
Indeed, no state income tax. Instead we have high sales tax (over 10%). License tabs were recently increased to pay for mass transit.
Yep so revenue has to be generated one way or another.
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Old 05-23-18, 04:45 PM
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We lease our RX350 and have moved from NY to CT. This is our first time leasing, but my wife's friends who lease say they never have to deal with tag and title stuff, the dealer does it for them. We asked the dealer about emissions inspection (state insp is required in NY) and our car is too new to require an emission inspection in CT, and there is no state inspection. This would have been the time for the dealer to offer to handle the registration process, which they didn't. My message to the tag & title dept at the dealer has not been returned.

I've requested the title from Lexus Financial, and now we wait. Does anyone have experience with CT registration on a leased Lexus? edit: or maybe any relocation to another state with a leased car?

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Old 06-02-18, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by situman
The difference is, if you jumped wrong, it's a 1 time error and short term pain and you become fertilizer. Doing that with purchases, its term pain with lots of money in a very deep cliff. Then your significant other will kill you, if you have a significant other.
You're absolutely right, I think with these high end cars you have to entertain a 100% loss when purchasing used. Meaning, say you get a 2012 S550 for $29k, from a new car dealer, the likelihood of losing 29k and being undriveable week 1, is low. The likelihood of a $5k repair if you can't DIY, is moderate. $10k, less likely. The opposite spectrum is the "never buy these cars, lease them and get rid of them under warranty." That isn't free, there is a stupendous cost attributed to it. I think my tolerance for risk is above average. DSC hydro failed on my 335, no, it didn't feel good, quite annoying. I knew $4,200 at the dealer was not an option, so I DIY'd. I would have to be able to DIY at least a lot of things, on an S550 before I would get it. If you want a flagship get a 3rd gen LS430--the likelihood of a major repair is almost none. Any repair, almost none. Go to the 3rd gen section and see. But to the avg. person that is as close to having a discount ticket to Dullsville, as it gets. Not exciting to drive, no exciting breakdown stories to tell. Perfect for those who are risk averse.

Of course setbacks are not good, would you rather get an unnecessary luxury car for $30, which makes you look rich cuz it was $110k new, or pay down your mortgage (I think at some point it should be paid off, my aunt is 72, and she owes over 500k on her house--she lived her life saying if the rate is low, she will borrow against her house and not pay down, I don't agree but she is in at 2.75%--also she is the newer generation who likely leaves nothing to charity and heirs).

Again, why speculate if you're not in the car business, would it not be better to accept? Why did VMW go up $8.50/share yesterday? It did, why speculate?
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Old 06-02-18, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jrmckinley
Agree on your S class statement. However, on your GS- you can't look at trade-in value and use that to calculate the depreciation. You have to look at what the car sells for when it's used (in my case I'm looking at the asking price from a seller on eBay in a "buy it now" auction where they don't negotiate). If they gave you $33k trade - what do you think they ended up asking for the car? $38k? That would be about 35% depreciation, not 50%.
I know exactly what they listed it for, $35,000. Assuming they got it that’s 41.2% depreciation in 2.5 years, that’s pretty bad considering the residual on the lease was 60% after 3 years. Bear in mind at that time my 2013 was identical to a new one, and now the LS460 is a generation behind.
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^^^Agreed. My GS value is terrible. This will be my first lease where I’ll end it with negative equity. Was going to buy it out but the value won’t make that a good idea, despite my love for the car.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
^^^Agreed. My GS value is terrible. This will be my first lease where I’ll end it with negative equity. Was going to buy it out but the value won’t make that a good idea, despite my love for the car.
And Lexus has this dumb policy where they wont let you negotiate on the price of the car after lease end.
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Originally Posted by situman
And Lexus has this dumb policy where they wont let you negotiate on the price of the car after lease end.
no automakers do, as far as I know
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Old 06-04-18, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1


no automakers do, as far as I know
Hmm not sure about that. I just know Lexus wont let u so it is dumb, regardless of what other automakers do and if they do the same, they are dumb too.
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Originally Posted by situman
Hmm not sure about that. I just know Lexus wont let u so it is dumb, regardless of what other automakers do and if they do the same, they are dumb too.
name an automaker that does?

Automakers don't care because they'll win either way. At the worst case scenario, they'll just send it to auction and get market pricing there.
Acura, Infiniti, Lexus, BMW, MB doesn't do it. Maybe Daewoo and Yugo might have.
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1


no automakers do, as far as I know
Other companies do. MB and BMW will negotiate the residual.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Other companies do. MB and BMW will negotiate the residual.
at time of return or sale? So BMW Corp. (not dealer) will let you negotiate their super inflated residual? If so, that's BIG news to me..
Learn something new everyday. Who wouldn't negotiate their residual? It's inflated by over 10%... lol
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Originally Posted by joedaddy1
at time of return or sale? So BMW Corp. (not dealer) will let you negotiate their super inflated residual? If so, that's BIG news to me..
Learn something new everyday. Who wouldn't negotiate their residual? It's inflated by over 10%... lol
No, when you go to buy it out they will negotiate the residual. Depends on how bad they want the car as a CPO (or how badly they don't)
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
No, when you go to buy it out they will negotiate the residual. Depends on how bad they want the car as a CPO (or how badly they don't)
so that's the dealer making the adjustment.. They are not negotiating the residual, they are negotiating the buy price when you "re-buy" your car used.
As far as BMW corp is concerned, you returned your lease. When you re-buy, it's with the dealership.

This is different. I wouldn't be surprised if the car is marked as "bought used" with 2 owners on Carfax. Not that it matters to the owner.
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