*Batman*

I'm pleased to see this redesign, because I posted here 2 years ago when the Camry was announced that the car looked **** and would be redesigned within a couple of years.

I called this correctly. I called the HS cancellation correctly.

Now I'm waiting for a wholesale redesign of the front end of the Lexus GS any day now (I predicted when it was launched that they would refresh within 2-3 years to a full grille as seen on IS).

*Batman*

I enjoyed this quote from the comments on Jalopnik.

rominl

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we seem to be pretty similar in taste!

spwolf

I saw that comment as well.

i found that pretty funny, considering how little money VW spent on redesigning Jetta despite sales being so low that Subaru outsells them these days.

It is not their fault though, it is sheep buying Camry

:-)

GoHuskers

80% of people who buys Camry CARELESS about these details. All they care about is Reliability, Economically, Roominess. It has been proven for the last decade.

RNM GS3

^
Agreed

Cant compare Toyota to old GM cars because on Average they are still at the top in reliability and resale value.
The regular midsize buyer cares only about that.

spwolf

i dont doubt for a second that if Toyota slips, they will all rush up front to take its place.
This is why Camry gets such upgrade for its 3rd year.

Haters want to believe it is just luck or sheep mentality, thats just crazy... look at Avalon sales before and after the new model - it was dead in 2012 and now it is selling like crazy.

I would not be surprised if Avalon was a Toyota test to see what happens when car that was usually angled towards older drivers, gets total makeover when it comes to the looks. It worked and then they applied that to the Camry as well to max extent possible.

pbm317

Doubt that. With Avalon, they could afford to make a huge risk, because it was nearly dead anyways.

They're not going to take huge gambles on the Camry.

spwolf

how do you mean "going to"? They already did.. front end of Camry is far more risky than Avalon.

-J-P-L-

It's crazy, like most people, I never cared about the Avalon. Boring senior citizen car....right?

The new car has increasingly peaked my interest to the point that it is the car I lust over the most. I'm 35 years old and I want one badly. Can't afford one though. I'm thinking of buying a 3 year old one in a few years unless the next all new Camry really impresses.

tmf2004

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the newer Avalon is pretty nice with the factory body kit.

*Batman*

Right but it's not the 80% that makes Toyota number 1 in the segment. It's the 20% of swing buyers that are at risk and its for them that this remodel is taking place.

I think its a good redesign on the back of a screwed up initial design. Except for the black plastic fake window which was completely unnecessary.

FrankReynoldsCPA

I guess I don't think the 2012 design was bad. It looked OK, which is what the camry is. The new redesign didn't look bad either. People will buy it anyway.

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Hoovey689

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Considering the GS is the only one left without a full Spindle it's safe to say we saw this coming

spwolf

i have been waiting for that for years :P

that and 2.0t.