hlee12

most cars will age. things will look dated. but a great design stands out. wannabe great design makes short lived splash and ultimately fades away. we see it all the time.

"If you don't get noticed, you don't have anything. You just have to be noticed, but the art is in getting noticed naturally, without screaming or without tricks."
-Leo Burnett

i know toyota is trying. but man, they are so far and away to achieve that enlightenment again. they've done that time to time historically. Supra for example.
it's tough being a car maker. great design is hard to find.

spwolf

again, thats your impression and has nothing to do pulling out opinions on design from 7 years ago.

Design is not static, and I certainly dont agree on the quote from 50-60 years ago. Best looking cars are not elegant anymore.

yowps3

Many people still prefer 2IS over the 3IS

We will see how the 3IS holds up in 8yrs time

-the 2IS is referred to as stylish, handsome & elegant, very timeless in fact.
The same cannot be said for the 3IS

LexFather

I'm not arguing with someone that might not even own a car and gives us his Hyundai styling analysis in every thread.

Smh...

He bud sorry didn't mean to make it seem like I was
Picking on you. I was not.

Let's all wait to see it in person. The internet (and the Same group here) went crazy on the Lexus grill "omg predator" and they jumped to te Camry "OMG lexus".

Quite a few posters make a great point: they complain the Camry is bland and now they complain it's ugly/too much.

I'm going to show some friends at Toyota this for a great chuckle, if they haven't already done so. Cause guess what, the Camry will still sell like hotcakes

And Phil what enthusiasts? We got the same people complaining about styling and not saying one thing about the chassis improvements.

hlee12

yeah, i'm actually 15 and i ride a bmx. and if i get lucky, my first car will be 20 year old hyundai accent.

DaveGS4

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Hlee12 and Lexfather, please exit his thread


Everybody lets knock off the personal comments please.

bitkahuna

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congrats! you're in michigan though? wonder why it was there. winter testing?

one you saw was parked? and you didn't take any pics?

SW17LS

While I think the car is a huge improvement over the pre-refresh car (which is an understatement...its a HUGE improvement) the carryover roofline is a little awkward with the rest of the long, low styling of the car...and the fact that the rear doors are the same doors, with that "faux" edge line pressed into the C pillars is pretty funny.

I am a little taken aback by the grille though...definately a lot of influence coming from Lexus here. The most successful Camrys have had a "Lexus" look and feel...but this is a little over the top IMHO. I do agree that it will dilute the look at will undo some of the differentiation they've been working on with Lexus...

deepoSC300

maybe one for the family

rominl

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i personally don't like the c-pillar, something weird about it. the front grille is a mix, but i kind of wish they deviate away from lexus more. interior though got good updates

Motor

Mr. Burns

^^

So all they did was a bit more welding to the chassis? Let's see how that helps with passing the small overlap crash test. I would think they'd need more extensive structural improvements for that.

ydooby

The 2014 Camry already got an "Acceptable" rating in the small overlap frontal crash test, so the refreshed Camry should perform at least the same if not better.

I'm anxious to see the first "Good" rating from a Toyota/Lexus though.

spwolf

they already changed crash structure in 2014.5 models to pass small overlap, so "previous" model already had that... more welds increase torsional rigidity for better handling.

*Batman*

This is what's weird about it. As Jalopnik puts it: :the one detail that cheapens the 2015 Camry". Cheap black plastic meant to look like a window. This is the kind of **** associated with the old GM.



http://jalopnik.com/the-one-detail-t...mry-1563760482