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Whitigir Mar 15, 2014 05:56 AM

Why Don't Toyota make a Performance Hybrid
 
So Toyota was the first one in the market to spread the butter. The Hybrid technology. Then why don't they build a Performance Hybrid ? Say even Infinity has a very very good Hybrid line up now, from the M35 to the Q60. All other like Porsches, BMW, Ferrari....etc...they have all produced some crazy hybrid.

Why are Toyota lacking ? How about the Yaris Hybrid R ? Why can't they start making the thing already ?

spwolf Mar 15, 2014 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 8431810)
So Toyota was the first one in the market to spread the butter. The Hybrid technology. Then why don't they build a Performance Hybrid ? Say even Infinity has a very very good Hybrid line up now, from the M35 to the Q60. All other like Porsches, BMW, Ferrari....etc...they have all produced some crazy hybrid.

Why are Toyota lacking ? How about the Yaris Hybrid R ? Why can't they start making the thing already ?

because they think it doesnt make sense... they prefer NA V8 for their Lexii F

Hoovey689 Mar 15, 2014 09:50 AM

GS450h F-Sport nuff said

corradoMR2 Mar 15, 2014 09:56 AM

^^^ Was just going to mention that. And to a lesser degree, RX 450h F-Sport.

venom21 Mar 15, 2014 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Hoovey2411 (Post 8432007)
GS450h F-Sport nuff said

Saddled with a CVT....

fastdak25 Mar 15, 2014 10:08 AM

If i could afford one, ya the GS450h. Though it wouldn't sound like a performance car =(

RXSF Mar 15, 2014 11:11 AM

because they tried...and then failed. They marketed the 1st generation LS and GS hybrids as performance cars but in truth they weren't, and then they didn't sell well.

Its not in the profit margins to do so.

Whitigir Mar 15, 2014 12:06 PM

That is so weird isn't it. I would love a GS450H, but the Price is too overwhelming. The Q60H beats the GS in every aspects as Performance Hybrid.

The weirder thing is the BMW Active Hybrid 3. It out perform the GS as well. BMW bought the tech from Toyota.

I just can't believe, a Parent of Hybrid Tech is falling behind every one.

spwolf Mar 15, 2014 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 8432158)
The Q60H beats the GS in every aspects as Performance Hybrid.

The weirder thing is the BMW Active Hybrid 3. It out perform the GS as well. BMW bought the tech from Toyota.


this is so wrong, it is funny.

Hoovey689 Mar 15, 2014 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by RXSF (Post 8432096)
because they tried...and then failed. They marketed the 1st generation LS and GS hybrids as performance cars but in truth they weren't, and then they didn't sell well.

Its not in the profit margins to do so.

True, and then the marketing fell flat. But then the product couldn't really support the hype anyway. Too bad, hope if they try it again with this next gen LS and future powertrains that they'll get it right.


Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 8432158)
That is so weird isn't it. I would love a GS450H, but the Price is too overwhelming. The Q60H beats the GS in every aspects as Performance Hybrid.

The weirder thing is the BMW Active Hybrid 3. It out perform the GS as well. BMW bought the tech from Toyota.

I just can't believe, a Parent of Hybrid Tech is falling behind every one.

Have to agree, it's $5-7K overpriced. Though the GS may lose in perfomance like straight line-speed, it absolutely kills the competition in terms of efficiency and refinement of the HSD

RXSF Mar 15, 2014 02:27 PM

The GSh may be 5-7K over priced, but the LSh is about 30K over priced :D

Whitigir Mar 15, 2014 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by RXSF (Post 8432311)
The GSh may be 5-7K over priced, but the LSh is about 30K over priced :D

Well, there are ways too many cars when you get to 6 digits...

doge Mar 15, 2014 05:56 PM

Weight, everyone is trying to mAke cars lighter it's the new trend . Batteries are heavy are heavy and don't fit that mantra

Sulu Mar 15, 2014 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by Whitigir (Post 8432158)
That is so weird isn't it. I would love a GS450H, but the Price is too overwhelming. The Q60H beats the GS in every aspects as Performance Hybrid.

The weirder thing is the BMW Active Hybrid 3. It out perform the GS as well. BMW bought the tech from Toyota.

I just can't believe, a Parent of Hybrid Tech is falling behind every one.

BMW's ActiveHybrid vehicles do not use Toyota hybrid technology. The ActiveHybrid system (like most hybrid systems) simply sandwiches a single electric motor between the engine and the normal transmission, whereas Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive (and Ford's and Honda's new hybrid systems) replaces the normal transmission with a 2-motor Power Split Device (eCVT).

BoostinSc3 Mar 15, 2014 06:31 PM

because its a hybrid lol your trying to be eco friendly and save fuel mpg


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