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PhilipMSPT Nov 15, 2013 07:42 AM

What's the oldest engine or chassis that's still being used today?
 
There's been a lot of people complaining about Lexus having old engines, even though they are still competitive in terms of power and fuel efficiency.

The IS350 has been out since late 2005. The G37/Q60 and 335i have been around since 2007.

And isn't MB's G-Glass chassis been around since the late 1970's? :uh:

Who can claim the oldest?

Lexmex Nov 15, 2013 08:11 AM

I was thinking maybe the Land Rover Defender

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Defender

Lexmex Nov 15, 2013 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT (Post 8238117)
There's been a lot of people complaining about Lexus having old engines, even though they are still competitive in terms of power and fuel efficiency.

The IS350 has been out since late 2005. The G37/Q60 and 335i have been around since 2007.

And isn't MB's G-Glass chassis been around since the late 1970's? :uh:

Who can claim the oldest?

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_G-Class

There is a 461 model that still shows present

MX5 Nov 15, 2013 08:23 AM

GM fullsize vans and the 4.3L V6

mmarshall Nov 15, 2013 08:45 AM

Arguably the Chevy small-block push-rod V8, which, despite many improvements and variations in displacement over the years, basically goes back to 1955.

BNR34 Nov 15, 2013 09:40 AM

GM's small block push rod V8, Bentley's 6.8L V8 that is in the current Mulsanne........these engine have some minor modern updates here and there, but the basic design date back to the 50s~60s.

Hoovey689 Nov 15, 2013 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by BNR34 (Post 8238315)
GM's small block push rod V8, Bentley's 6.8L V8 that is in the current Mulsanne........these engine have some minor modern updates here and there, but the basic design date back to the 50s~60s.

Not that I'm nit-picking, just curious I thought the current Mulsanne used a 6.7L?

LexFather Nov 15, 2013 11:03 AM

G-wagon? What about Caterham?

VQ actually shares its roots from the old 3.0 in the 1996 or so Maxima…..

Hoovey689 Nov 15, 2013 11:13 AM

The J-Series V6 from Honda/Acura dates back to 1996

BNR34 Nov 15, 2013 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by Hoovey2411 (Post 8238436)
Not that I'm nit-picking, just curious I thought the current Mulsanne used a 6.7L?

You are nit-picking..........lol.......JK :p

I didn't know anyone would actually care.....haha. So it is 6 3/4 L, I rounded it up ;)

The same old single cam push rod 2 valves head........since the 50s, probably the same bore/stroke, bore spacing and displacement, I don't bother to look it up though, so I could be wrong.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadte...nne-engine.jpg
http://notoriousluxury.files.wordpre...2013/10/85.jpg

BNR34 Nov 15, 2013 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Hoovey2411 (Post 8238436)
Not that I'm nit-picking, just curious I thought the current Mulsanne used a 6.7L?

Here you go:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/20/b...-50-years-old/

mmarshall Nov 15, 2013 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by LexFather (Post 8238444)
G-wagon?

Good credible guess on the G-Wagen. It dates to an Austrian military-spec from the early 1980's.

I was going to bring up the British Morgan roadsters for the chassis, as they have used wood in the structure same manner, more or less, for decades. But it wouldn't count, on a technicality...the wood in Morgans is for the body sub-structure, but the chassis itself is bonded-aluminum.

The Jeep Wrangler, of course, in some ways, dates to 1941 U.S. Army-specs, but, again, the original Kaiser/Willys chassis is not what is being used today. The suspension, among other features, is now totally different, and now features coil springs instead of the old transverse-leaves.

TangoRed Nov 15, 2013 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by PhilipMSPT (Post 8238117)
There's been a lot of people complaining about Lexus having old engines, even though they are still competitive in terms of power and fuel efficiency.

The IS350 has been out since late 2005. The G37/Q60 and 335i have been around since 2007.

And isn't MB's G-Glass chassis been around since the late 1970's? :uh:

Who can claim the oldest?

The 335i uses the N55 engine now, so that's incorrect.

Hoovey689 Nov 15, 2013 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by BNR34 (Post 8238537)

hah you did bother to look!

Ok yeah 6.75 Litres

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On a similar note, same as how Aston Martin rounds up the 5.9L V12 to 6.0L

Speaking of that engine I believe it was two Ford Duratec 3.0L V6's put together yes?

BNR34 Nov 15, 2013 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Hoovey2411 (Post 8238625)
hah you did bother to look!

Ok yeah 6.75 Litres

I meant I didn't bother to look up the if the bore/stroke, bore spacing and displacement are the same all these decades.


Originally Posted by Hoovey2411 (Post 8238625)
On a similar note, same as how Aston Martin rounds up the 5.9L V12 to 6.0L

Speaking of that engine I believe it was two Ford Duratec 3.0L V6's put together yes?

That I don't know, would make sense as Ford owned Aston for a long time and Aston have very little R&D money.


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