Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

First Drive: 2014 BMW X5

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-18-13, 08:56 PM
  #16  
Och
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (3)
 
Och's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NY
Posts: 16,436
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Just tells you what a tremendous deal the current X5 is. For example, my 2010 335 was a couple hundred bucks less than 50k, and it didn't even have premium package, yet my 2012 fully loaded x5 5.0 was $63k out of the door after discounts. Its twice as much car as the 335, and the price was simply a steal. No wonder the new gen is going up in price.
Och is offline  
Old 09-19-13, 05:41 AM
  #17  
patgilm
Lead Lap
 
patgilm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 3,862
Received 231 Likes on 162 Posts
Default

I have been shopping the X5 and waiting for the '14 and when I was at the dealership the large increase in price is really not as big as people think because of what is included as standard features that used to be options. So you really have to look at what you are getting standard over what used to be options on the previous model. Kind of like the '14 GX, sure it's based model is cheaper than the previous version but you are getting much less.
patgilm is offline  
Old 09-19-13, 06:37 AM
  #18  
lamar411
Pole Position
 
lamar411's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: IL
Posts: 2,666
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Wow, the E70 X5 looks much better then this. Now it just looks like they got an X3 and added to the length.
lamar411 is offline  
Old 09-19-13, 06:39 AM
  #19  
TangoRed
Lead Lap
 
TangoRed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Washington
Posts: 4,585
Received 24 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GoGiantsNJ
I bet most people cross shopping that class of SUV's or SAV's or whatever will by pass the new much more expensive BMW made in South Carolina. Porsche Cayenne will get more sales. Even VW Touaregs will beat it.
Let's not get carried away. The X5 isn't going to go from the sales leader in its class (it regularly trades off with the ML, and this is excluding the Lexus RX) to a trickle of sales like the Touareg.

Originally Posted by SteVTEC
No thanks. Keeping our E70. Just haven't been impressed by any of the newer BMWs. The now old ones are the last and best of breed, IMHO. And yeah, the "iPad sticking out of the dash" really bothers both my wife and I. Her especially..... Just sayin'.
This generation of BMW's has failed to excite me as well. I'm just not a huge fan of anything they've put out recently. That being said, I like the iPad sticking out of the dash look. I think Mercedes/BMW/Audi have the right idea here because it lowers the cowl and allows the dash to slope down after the instrument binnacle, increasing visibility.
TangoRed is offline  
Old 09-19-13, 06:43 AM
  #20  
bitkahuna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
 
bitkahuna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Present
Posts: 73,770
Received 2,127 Likes on 1,379 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by patgilm
I have been shopping the X5 and waiting for the '14 and when I was at the dealership the large increase in price is really not as big as people think because of what is included as standard features that used to be options. So you really have to look at what you are getting standard over what used to be options on the previous model. Kind of like the '14 GX, sure it's based model is cheaper than the previous version but you are getting much less.
good point... that's often done just for competitive reasons and to simplify the product line since they know most customers get certain options anyway.
bitkahuna is offline  
Old 09-19-13, 07:26 AM
  #21  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I think both Acura and BMW didn't want to alienate loyal customers thus the exterior design barely looks new. When you have a loyal group you don't have to push boundaries. I also prefer the more muscular previous X5. The same thing happened to the ML, went from masculine, butch to rather bland and staid. Honestly for all the **** talking about the RX design every generation they sure did follow it.

But oh, they have LED lights

To me the previous X5 pricing was attractive in many ways. Now that this has climbed a bit well I think people are going to maybe try that Range Rover out. It even has a 7 seat option too.

https://newrangeroversport.landrover...plore/overview

Starts at 63k
 
Old 09-19-13, 09:14 AM
  #22  
SteVTEC
Lexus Test Driver
 
SteVTEC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 1,243
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I see it like the changes the Infiniti FX went through. 1st generation looked great, very masculine and brawny looking. The 2nd gen FX looked far more feminine and never looked right to me, and I saw more women driving them too. Same thing with the new X5 now. Maybe BMW is trying to attract more female buyers with their model lineup? Not sure what their current split is on that across their line.

The point about pricing being a lot higher because of more standard equipment being included is probably valid. I priced out a 5-series and was blown away by the "base price", but realized later that I didn't actually need to check any of the option boxes really. Still, BMW Navigation stinks, and if you just love how BMWs drive and want a "basic" model without all of the techno doo-dads and other gizmos you can't get them anymore, except on maybe the 3-series. Maybe BMW is trying to send us all a message. It's not about how the cars drive or feel to drive anymore. It's about the look and the techno doo-dads.
SteVTEC is offline  
Old 09-19-13, 10:35 AM
  #23  
baddis es
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (3)
 
baddis es's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: FL
Posts: 2,318
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Blueprint
I think both Acura and BMW didn't want to alienate loyal customers thus the exterior design barely looks new. When you have a loyal group you don't have to push boundaries. I also prefer the more muscular previous X5. The same thing happened to the ML, went from masculine, butch to rather bland and staid. Honestly for all the **** talking about the RX design every generation they sure did follow it.

But oh, they have LED lights

To me the previous X5 pricing was attractive in many ways. Now that this has climbed a bit well I think people are going to maybe try that Range Rover out. It even has a 7 seat option too.
https://newrangeroversport.landrover...plore/overview

Starts at 63k

this is exactly where the X5 customers will go...and even though the Range got a bit softer as well, it's still the best looker between the two
baddis es is offline  
Old 09-19-13, 12:11 PM
  #24  
projectdna
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (56)
 
projectdna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: California
Posts: 7,371
Received 24 Likes on 22 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by baddis es
this is exactly where the X5 customers will go...and even though the Range got a bit softer as well, it's still the best looker between the two
"A bit softer" is a compliment. The RR looks like it went halfway towards the styling cues of the Evoque and the RR Sport, but since RR's have always retained a box-like look as part of its lineage, the new exterior design looks like it wasn't executed properly.

On the other hand, the RR and Evoque are very handsome cars, IMO.
projectdna is offline  
Old 09-19-13, 12:45 PM
  #25  
I8ABMR
Lexus Fanatic
 
I8ABMR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Waiting for next track day
Posts: 22,609
Received 100 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

The new version looks so much more feminine. The older version was sportier looking by far. If I drop that kid of coin on a car I want to drool as I walk up to it. This thing wouldn't do it for me.

Obviously its been upgraded in its features, safety, etc, BUT that thing looks so dull. Not sure BMW has gone in this direction. The X5 was the luxury SUV that all men wanted ( before the Cayanne).....not sure now
I8ABMR is offline  
Old 09-19-13, 02:13 PM
  #26  
stlgrym3
Racer
iTrader: (4)
 
stlgrym3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,351
Received 20 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

the new version is so expensive compare to the outgoing one. $52k base for the 2WD model? i'd rather get a leftover '13 for 5K less with X-Drive. it's basically the same drivetrain, just cosmetic and suspension changes.
stlgrym3 is offline  
Old 02-21-14, 06:39 AM
  #27  
Vh_Supra26
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Vh_Supra26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: LA
Posts: 5,037
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default BMW X5 plug-in hybrid prototype revealed, will go into production soon


Could be called the X5 eDdrive

BMW has announced plans to offer an X5 plug-in hybrid.
Previewed by the Concept X5 eDrive, the prototype has an a TwinPower Turbo four-cylinder petrol engine, an electric motor and an xDrive all-wheel drive system. Detailed specifications were not released but BMW said the engine and electric motor can work together to maximize performance.

Speaking of performance, the model can accelerate from 0-100 km/h in less than seven seconds and average approximately 3.8 L/100km (61.9 mpg US / 74.3 mpg UK) with CO2 emissions of 90 g/km. More importantly, the crossover can travel up to 30 km (18.6 miles) on electricity alone.

BMW declined to say when the model will be launched but it will likely wear the X5 eDrive moniker when it goes on sale.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11402207...d-will-go-into
Vh_Supra26 is offline  
Old 02-21-14, 09:37 AM
  #28  
Hoovey689
Moderator
Thread Starter
iTrader: (16)
 
Hoovey689's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
Posts: 42,283
Received 122 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

wow, so Plug-in Hybrids are the new rage?
Hoovey689 is offline  
Old 03-03-14, 07:56 AM
  #29  
Vh_Supra26
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Vh_Supra26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: LA
Posts: 5,037
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default AC Schnitzer Rolls Out New BMW X5 F15 Tune with up to 525PS for Geneva


BMW Group specialist AC Schnitzer will be one of many tuners hosting a world premiere at the 84th Geneva International Motor Show this week. The main course concerns their tune for the third generation BMW X5, codenamed F15, launched onto the market last year.

The Aachen-based modifier has prepared six performance tunes for the X5, highlighted by the engine upgrades for the M50d diesel that shoots out 430PS (424hp), up from the standard 381PS (376hp), and for the 50i V8 turbocharged petrol producing 525PS (518hp), up from 450PS (444hp). Details on the other packages are to be announced during the Swiss event.

To improve contact with the road, there's an AC Schnitzer sports suspension spring kit that lowers the body by 30 mm (front) and 20 mm (rear), and a choice of 20-, 21- and 22-inch wheels available in different styles and colors.

AC Schnitzer's dress up kit includes front skirt and rear aprons, an integrated rear diffuser and different tail pipe finishers for the outside, and aluminum pedals and foot rest, together with a key-holder and foot mats for the cabin.
http://www.carscoops.com/2014/03/ac-...mw-x5-f15.html
Vh_Supra26 is offline  
Old 03-03-14, 09:45 AM
  #30  
jwong77
Pole Position
 
jwong77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: CA
Posts: 2,299
Received 15 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Wow, AC Schnitzer actually made a good looking body kit!

I think they've been responsible for some pretty terrible body kits in the past.
jwong77 is offline  


Quick Reply: First Drive: 2014 BMW X5



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:10 PM.