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Scion FR-S pitted against oldtimers RX-8 and S2000

Old 05-08-13, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by balMaster
I believe the number one goal of the twins was “balance”.
Price, fuel economy, power, chassis, brake, suspension, tires, and etc.
If you add more power, like many people are asking for, then it will need bigger brake, stiffer suspension, tires with more grips, firmer chassis, which raises the price of the car and lowers the fuel economy.
So, by adding more power, it ruins the number one goal of this car.
I would just trust in Toyota’s and Subaru’s years of R&D coming up with this balance.
So…, if I drive this car and feel it lacks in power, then I would just believe that it is the best amount of power this car should have.

It would have been a different story and a different car if the price and fuel economy were out of their equation.
^This! Now lets hope Toyota can do will apply the same "balance" in their ~$50k Supra.
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Old 05-08-13, 05:00 PM
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One thing the 86 has over the S2000 is platform/engine sharing. It was fortunate that Toyota and Subaru had each other so imagine if Toyota produced the 86 alone. The same car would probably approach $30k, if not more. The S2000 was expensive because it was created in an era where Honda didn't care about cost. It was suppose to lived for 2 years so profit was out of the question. Advance manufacturing also comes into play. There is a decade gap between the two cars. You can do a lot in 10 years, especially for Toyota who is heavily invested in Kaizen. Both of these cars are winners in my book because they do what they're intended to do, and they do it well.
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