Toyota Reveals Updated TS030 Hybrid race car for 2013 Le Mans
04-15-13, 02:43 PM
#17
Meanwhile Audi is going Diesel Electric
Interesting tech coming from Toyota and Audi for future Le Mans racing
Gallery:
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/audi-...photo-4858148/
Speculation continues as to the final nature of the diesel-hybrid Audi supercar said to arrive in 2016 or 2017. A previous report in Automobile had the halo coupe, based closely on the R18 etron quattro endurance racer, codenamed R20 and pegged to look like a Le Mans winner for the street with around 700 horsepower and 737 pound-feet of torque from a twin-turbo V6. Now Car and Driver has updated the gossip with a report that the car is internally called "Scorpion," and it will be even closer to the R18 than supposed.
CD says the heart of the car will use the R18 etron quattro's carbon fiber tub and its engine will be "taken directly" from the race car. That means a 3.7-liter V6 with a single turbo that, in ACO-spec restricted form, outputs 500 hp and 625 lb-ft – CD suspects production output could get to 600 hp – and drives the rear wheels, aided by hybrid motors driving the front wheels. And remember, at Le Mans the R18's hybrid motors can't kick in until they're above a certain speed in order to prevent Audi from getting an advantage coming out of slow corners. A street car wouldn't face that restriction.
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/04/15/a...amed-scorpion/
Audi's diesel-electric supercar is codenamed 'Scorpion'
Gallery:
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/audi-...photo-4858148/
Speculation continues as to the final nature of the diesel-hybrid Audi supercar said to arrive in 2016 or 2017. A previous report in Automobile had the halo coupe, based closely on the R18 etron quattro endurance racer, codenamed R20 and pegged to look like a Le Mans winner for the street with around 700 horsepower and 737 pound-feet of torque from a twin-turbo V6. Now Car and Driver has updated the gossip with a report that the car is internally called "Scorpion," and it will be even closer to the R18 than supposed.
CD says the heart of the car will use the R18 etron quattro's carbon fiber tub and its engine will be "taken directly" from the race car. That means a 3.7-liter V6 with a single turbo that, in ACO-spec restricted form, outputs 500 hp and 625 lb-ft – CD suspects production output could get to 600 hp – and drives the rear wheels, aided by hybrid motors driving the front wheels. And remember, at Le Mans the R18's hybrid motors can't kick in until they're above a certain speed in order to prevent Audi from getting an advantage coming out of slow corners. A street car wouldn't face that restriction.
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/04/15/a...amed-scorpion/
04-16-13, 10:58 PM
#18
Lexus Champion
Audi is decent, but their 'hybrid technology' is basically borrowed from Williams. The flywheel system debuted on the Porsche 911 GT3-R Hybrid. Toyota's on the other hand is from their own previous racing experience. The Supercapacitor system was raced on the Toyota Supra HV-R Tokachi 24hr winner.
04-18-13, 03:22 AM
#22
Pole Position
Well that was a rookie mistake but that's ok cause they are still growing. On the other hand Audis do have a pace this year and it will be even tighter than last season so I am looking for some good fights on the track.
LMP1 begs for another two manufacturer so we can have proper 8 car battles. Porsche will be there next year but wait and see how much know-how are they going to get from Audi. It will be a weird situation for sure, will Porsche play wingmen to Audis or vice versa or will they truly be independent.
LMP1 begs for another two manufacturer so we can have proper 8 car battles. Porsche will be there next year but wait and see how much know-how are they going to get from Audi. It will be a weird situation for sure, will Porsche play wingmen to Audis or vice versa or will they truly be independent.
thanks!
05-03-13, 06:56 AM
#25
Pole Position
Spa Practice Session 1 LMP1 Results
P2 Session is under way and situation is bout the same. That Lola is also kickin *** in P2 as well.
All Audis are in 2:01 while Toyotas and that one Lola are still in 2:02
1 1 LMP1 André LOTTERER, Benoit TRÉLUYER, Marcel FÄSSLER
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
2:01.972
2 2 LMP1 Tom KRISTENSEN, Loïc DUVAL, Allan MCNISH
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
2:02.312
3 3 LMP1 Lucas DI GRASSI, Marc GENÉ, Oliver JARVIS
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
2:02.339
4 7 LMP1 Alexander WURZ, Nicolas LAPIERRE, Kazuki NAKAJIMA
Toyota TS030 - Hybrid
2:02.856
5 12 LMP1 Nicolas PROST, Neel JANI, Nick HEIDFELD
Lola B12/60 Coupé - Toyota
2:02.941
6 8 LMP1 Anthony DAVIDSON, Sébastien BUEMI, Stéphane SARRAZIN
Toyota TS030 - Hybrid
2:03.143
7 13 LMP1 Andrea BELICCHI, Mathias BECHE, Cong Fu CHENG
Lola B12/60 Coupé - Toyota
2:03.889
8 21 LMP1 Nick LEVENTIS, Danny WATTS, Jonny KANE
HPD ARX 03c - Honda
2:05.813
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
2:01.972
2 2 LMP1 Tom KRISTENSEN, Loïc DUVAL, Allan MCNISH
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
2:02.312
3 3 LMP1 Lucas DI GRASSI, Marc GENÉ, Oliver JARVIS
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
2:02.339
4 7 LMP1 Alexander WURZ, Nicolas LAPIERRE, Kazuki NAKAJIMA
Toyota TS030 - Hybrid
2:02.856
5 12 LMP1 Nicolas PROST, Neel JANI, Nick HEIDFELD
Lola B12/60 Coupé - Toyota
2:02.941
6 8 LMP1 Anthony DAVIDSON, Sébastien BUEMI, Stéphane SARRAZIN
Toyota TS030 - Hybrid
2:03.143
7 13 LMP1 Andrea BELICCHI, Mathias BECHE, Cong Fu CHENG
Lola B12/60 Coupé - Toyota
2:03.889
8 21 LMP1 Nick LEVENTIS, Danny WATTS, Jonny KANE
HPD ARX 03c - Honda
2:05.813
All Audis are in 2:01 while Toyotas and that one Lola are still in 2:02
05-03-13, 11:14 AM
#26
Pole Position
FIA WEC Spa Qualification LMP1 Results
1 1 LM P1 AUDI SPORT TEAM JOEST LOTTERER A.
AUDI R18 e-tron Quattro
1:59.961
D1L1: 1:59.336 D1L2: 1:59.545 D2L1: 2:00.174 D2L2: 2:00.792
2 3 LM P1 AUDI SPORT TEAM JOEST GENÉ M.
AUDI R18 e-tron quattro
2:00.236
D1L1: 1:58.934 D1L2: 1:59.436 D2L1: 2:00.867 D2L2: 2:01.708
3 2 LM P1 AUDI SPORT TEAM JOEST MCNISH A.
AUDI R18 e-tron Quattro
2:00.610
D1L1: 2:00.126 D1L2: 2:00.197 D2L1: 2:00.987 D2L2: 2:01.132
4 7 LM P1 TOYOTA RACING NAKAJIMA K.
TOYOTA TS030 - Hybrid
2:00.947
D1L1: 2:00.757 D1L2: 2:00.851 D2L1: 2:00.869 D2L2: 2:01.314
5 8 LM P1 TOYOTA RACING DAVIDSON A.
TOYOTA TS030 - Hybrid
2:01.203
D1L1: 2:00.548 D1L2: 2:01.086 D2L1: 2:01.052 D2L2: 2:02.129
6 12 LM P1 REBELLION RACING JANI N.
LOLA B12/60 Coup
2:01.482
D1L1: 2:00.722 D1L2: 2:00.983 D2L1: 2:01.999 D2L2: 2:02.227
7 13 LM P1 REBELLION RACING BECHE M.
LOLA B12/60 Coup
2:03.278
D1L1: 2:02.432 D1L2: 2:02.961 D2L1: 2:03.610 D2L2: 2:04.111
8 21 LM P1 STRAKKA RACING KANE J.
HPD ARX 03c - Honda
2:03.688
D1L1: 2:02.939 D1L2: 2:02.999 D2L1: 2:04.302 D2L2: 2:04.515
AUDI R18 e-tron Quattro
1:59.961
D1L1: 1:59.336 D1L2: 1:59.545 D2L1: 2:00.174 D2L2: 2:00.792
2 3 LM P1 AUDI SPORT TEAM JOEST GENÉ M.
AUDI R18 e-tron quattro
2:00.236
D1L1: 1:58.934 D1L2: 1:59.436 D2L1: 2:00.867 D2L2: 2:01.708
3 2 LM P1 AUDI SPORT TEAM JOEST MCNISH A.
AUDI R18 e-tron Quattro
2:00.610
D1L1: 2:00.126 D1L2: 2:00.197 D2L1: 2:00.987 D2L2: 2:01.132
4 7 LM P1 TOYOTA RACING NAKAJIMA K.
TOYOTA TS030 - Hybrid
2:00.947
D1L1: 2:00.757 D1L2: 2:00.851 D2L1: 2:00.869 D2L2: 2:01.314
5 8 LM P1 TOYOTA RACING DAVIDSON A.
TOYOTA TS030 - Hybrid
2:01.203
D1L1: 2:00.548 D1L2: 2:01.086 D2L1: 2:01.052 D2L2: 2:02.129
6 12 LM P1 REBELLION RACING JANI N.
LOLA B12/60 Coup
2:01.482
D1L1: 2:00.722 D1L2: 2:00.983 D2L1: 2:01.999 D2L2: 2:02.227
7 13 LM P1 REBELLION RACING BECHE M.
LOLA B12/60 Coup
2:03.278
D1L1: 2:02.432 D1L2: 2:02.961 D2L1: 2:03.610 D2L2: 2:04.111
8 21 LM P1 STRAKKA RACING KANE J.
HPD ARX 03c - Honda
2:03.688
D1L1: 2:02.939 D1L2: 2:02.999 D2L1: 2:04.302 D2L2: 2:04.515
05-04-13, 01:49 AM
#27
Pole Position
WEC 6 Hours of Spa - Qualifications LMGTE Pro Class
18 98 LMGTE Pro Bruno SENNA, Frédéric MAKOWIECKI, Rob BELL
Aston Martin Vantage V8
Driver 1
L1: 2:19.203 L2: 2:19.929
Driver 2
L1: 2:19.832 L2: 2:20.280
Average
2'19.811
LMP1 Pole Gap +19.850
19 51 LMGTE Pro Gianmaria BRUNI, Giancarlo FISICHELLA,
Ferrari F458 Italia
Driver 1
L1: 2:20.183 L2: 2:20.281
Driver 2
L1: 2:19.452 L2: 2:19.497
Average
2'19.853
20 71 LMGTE Pro Kamui KOBAYASHI, Toni VILANDER,
Ferrari F458 Italia
Driver 1
L1: 2:19.901 L2: 2:20.080
Driver 2
L1: 2:19.893 L2: 2:20.485
Average
2'20.089
21 97 LMGTE Pro Darren TURNER, Stefan MÜCKE, Peter DUMBRECK
Aston Martin Vantage V8
Driver 1
L1: 2:19.477 L2: 2:20.027
Driver 2
L1: 2:20.266 L2: 2:20.661
Average
2'20.107
22 99 LMGTE Pro Paul DALLA LANA, Pedro LAMY, Richie STANAWAY
Aston Martin Vantage V8
Driver 1
L1: 2:20.402 L2: 2:20.790
Driver 2
L1: 2:19.267 L2: 2:20.506
Average
2'20.241
23 91 LMGTE Pro Jörg BERGMEISTER, Patrick PILET, Timo BERNHARD
Porsche 911 RSR
Driver 1
L1: 2:20.108 L2: 2:20.455
Driver 2
L1: 2:20.024 L2: 2:20.388
Average
2'20.243
24 92 LMGTE Pro Marc LIEB, Richard LIETZ, Romain DUMAS
Porsche 911 RSR
Driver 1
L1: 2:20.095 L2: 2:20.432
Driver 2
L1: 2:21.376 L2: 2:21.537
Average
2'20.860
Aston Martin Vantage V8
Driver 1
L1: 2:19.203 L2: 2:19.929
Driver 2
L1: 2:19.832 L2: 2:20.280
Average
2'19.811
LMP1 Pole Gap +19.850
19 51 LMGTE Pro Gianmaria BRUNI, Giancarlo FISICHELLA,
Ferrari F458 Italia
Driver 1
L1: 2:20.183 L2: 2:20.281
Driver 2
L1: 2:19.452 L2: 2:19.497
Average
2'19.853
20 71 LMGTE Pro Kamui KOBAYASHI, Toni VILANDER,
Ferrari F458 Italia
Driver 1
L1: 2:19.901 L2: 2:20.080
Driver 2
L1: 2:19.893 L2: 2:20.485
Average
2'20.089
21 97 LMGTE Pro Darren TURNER, Stefan MÜCKE, Peter DUMBRECK
Aston Martin Vantage V8
Driver 1
L1: 2:19.477 L2: 2:20.027
Driver 2
L1: 2:20.266 L2: 2:20.661
Average
2'20.107
22 99 LMGTE Pro Paul DALLA LANA, Pedro LAMY, Richie STANAWAY
Aston Martin Vantage V8
Driver 1
L1: 2:20.402 L2: 2:20.790
Driver 2
L1: 2:19.267 L2: 2:20.506
Average
2'20.241
23 91 LMGTE Pro Jörg BERGMEISTER, Patrick PILET, Timo BERNHARD
Porsche 911 RSR
Driver 1
L1: 2:20.108 L2: 2:20.455
Driver 2
L1: 2:20.024 L2: 2:20.388
Average
2'20.243
24 92 LMGTE Pro Marc LIEB, Richard LIETZ, Romain DUMAS
Porsche 911 RSR
Driver 1
L1: 2:20.095 L2: 2:20.432
Driver 2
L1: 2:21.376 L2: 2:21.537
Average
2'20.860
05-04-13, 01:57 AM
#28
Pole Position
WEC 6 Hours of Spa - Warm Up Session
Well at least one Toyota got in between the Audis but that is likely due to different setup in that Audi. There is 2 second gap per lap which doesn't seem very optimistic for Toyota at all.
Anyway Watch the race @ http://live.fiawec.com/
Race starts @ 14:30 CET or 8:30AM EST
1 2 LMP1 Tom KRISTENSEN, Loïc DUVAL, Allan MCNISH
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
1:59.659
2 3 LMP1 Lucas DI GRASSI, Marc GENÉ, Oliver JARVIS
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
2:00.612
3 8 LMP1 Anthony DAVIDSON, Sébastien BUEMI, Stéphane SARRAZIN
Toyota TS030 - Hybrid
2:02.050
4 1 LMP1 André LOTTERER, Benoit TRÉLUYER, Marcel FÄSSLER
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
2:02.091
5 7 LMP1 Alexander WURZ, Nicolas LAPIERRE, Kazuki NAKAJIMA
Toyota TS030 - Hybrid
2:02.275
6 12 LMP1 Nicolas PROST, Neel JANI, Nick HEIDFELD
Lola B12/60 Coupé - Toyota
2:03.712
7 13 LMP1 Andrea BELICCHI, Mathias BECHE, Cong Fu CHENG
Lola B12/60 Coupé - Toyota
2:03.726
8 21 LMP1 Nick LEVENTIS, Danny WATTS, Jonny KANE
HPD ARX 03c - Honda
2:05.617
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
1:59.659
2 3 LMP1 Lucas DI GRASSI, Marc GENÉ, Oliver JARVIS
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
2:00.612
3 8 LMP1 Anthony DAVIDSON, Sébastien BUEMI, Stéphane SARRAZIN
Toyota TS030 - Hybrid
2:02.050
4 1 LMP1 André LOTTERER, Benoit TRÉLUYER, Marcel FÄSSLER
Audi R18 e-tron quattro
2:02.091
5 7 LMP1 Alexander WURZ, Nicolas LAPIERRE, Kazuki NAKAJIMA
Toyota TS030 - Hybrid
2:02.275
6 12 LMP1 Nicolas PROST, Neel JANI, Nick HEIDFELD
Lola B12/60 Coupé - Toyota
2:03.712
7 13 LMP1 Andrea BELICCHI, Mathias BECHE, Cong Fu CHENG
Lola B12/60 Coupé - Toyota
2:03.726
8 21 LMP1 Nick LEVENTIS, Danny WATTS, Jonny KANE
HPD ARX 03c - Honda
2:05.617
Anyway Watch the race @ http://live.fiawec.com/
Race starts @ 14:30 CET or 8:30AM EST
05-04-13, 06:40 AM
#29
Pole Position
1 hour into WEC 6 Hours of Spa
Toyota #8 took over 2nd place early in the race only to loose it 10 minutes later due to stupid mistake by trying to pass on Aston Martin on the outside and almost connecting with the wall.
This Toyota was quicker of the two but strange tactics in the first pit stop bypassing the tire change for some reason made other Toyota #7 pass it by in the meantime.
The only Audi longtail #3 had some problems in the pits with the doors and it dropped few places and had some hard time passing Heidfeld in Lola Toyota.
Audi #1 is way too quick and no one can match it by now.
Best chance Toyotas have right now is to overtake Audi #2, they are 2-3 seconds behind it.
In LMGTE Pro we saw awesome battle between two Ferraris and two Astons. Fisichella and Kobayashi are now driving the Ferraris and we soon should expect Astons to come get driver change for Bruno Senna as well.
Safety Car out right now! 4:50h more to go!
Toyota #8 took over 2nd place early in the race only to loose it 10 minutes later due to stupid mistake by trying to pass on Aston Martin on the outside and almost connecting with the wall.
This Toyota was quicker of the two but strange tactics in the first pit stop bypassing the tire change for some reason made other Toyota #7 pass it by in the meantime.
The only Audi longtail #3 had some problems in the pits with the doors and it dropped few places and had some hard time passing Heidfeld in Lola Toyota.
Audi #1 is way too quick and no one can match it by now.
Best chance Toyotas have right now is to overtake Audi #2, they are 2-3 seconds behind it.
In LMGTE Pro we saw awesome battle between two Ferraris and two Astons. Fisichella and Kobayashi are now driving the Ferraris and we soon should expect Astons to come get driver change for Bruno Senna as well.
Safety Car out right now! 4:50h more to go!
Last edited by Vladi; 05-04-13 at 06:49 AM.
05-04-13, 06:50 AM
#30
Pole Position