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Old 02-19-13, 10:29 AM
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^Guess they were too scared to bring the GS
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Old 02-19-13, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by pman6
Let's not forget that Audi sells the FWD A8 in europe.

Acura brought along the E and 5 to compare, which are typically bought by middle aged guys who have 60k to spend.
That's their target market, not you 3-series, IS-driving young folks.
if they want to target 5 series and E-class they need to spend some money and build RWD cars.
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Old 02-19-13, 12:03 PM
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It's simple, there are too many better sedans in this price range, very few buyers would even consider the RLX.
I would get a Ultra Lux ES over this if I want a FWD comfort cruiser,
I would get a GS350 loaded, and still have money left for a set of nice wheels.
Hell, I would even get a Hyundai Equus if I want space ,RWD, and luxury for cheap.
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Old 02-19-13, 12:15 PM
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Wow I want to read this review but I never clicked on this thread until now because I was reading the title as "2014 Acura ILX".

1st fail, I misread the name of the flagship as the entry level model.
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Old 02-19-13, 12:18 PM
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forget about comparing this to others, it has no chance. funny thing is the new RLX will even lose sales to the current TL SH-AWD. i can get a brand new 2013 TL SH-AWD (3.7L V6 with 305 hp) with technology package for under 40k, is the new FWD RLX worth 15K more? i don't think so.
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Old 02-19-13, 12:25 PM
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Acura should change their target to bring back the sporty hatchbacks and coupes, RSX and CL replacements. they won't have any competition if they reinvent those two models. Acura should just carry the following models:

RSX replacement (Civic SI motor, with sportier suspension and more luxury interior while keeping the weight in check)

ILX minus the hybrid model (for RSX buyers who need a four door)

CL coupe replacement (3.5L DI V6 without VCM, with 6 speed auto/manual, sportier suspension than V6 Accord coupe)

the new TSX (CL buyers who need a four door)

RDX and MDX
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Old 02-19-13, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by pman6
Let's not forget that Audi sells the FWD A8 in europe.

Acura brought along the E and 5 to compare, which are typically bought by middle aged guys who have 60k to spend.
That's their target market, not you 3-series, IS-driving young folks.
Who cares, people buy the FWD A8 in Europe. People DO NOT buy the RL AWD or FWD. Audi has no problem selling cars or with image, Acura does.

Acura brought an E and 5 for reasons no one knows b/c no one cross shops Acura with real luxury brands. This has been restated by data over and over the last 10 years. They don't even know their target market, they have none. There is no market for the RLX or RL since 1996, the yearly worst seller in class most years. It never meets sales goals. Young people don't even know it exists nor older people.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.USPuj47zeCg

Drury points to Edmunds.com data showing that about 21% of people who consider an Acura also look at Toyota; nearly 19% cross-shop Hondas. Further, fewer than 13% of people looking at Audi also consider Acura, and about 17% of Infiniti shoppers cross-shop Acuras. Meanwhile, about 30% of people who consider an Audi also look at a BMW.

In other words, car shoppers seem more inclined to consider Toyotas and Hondas — not Audis and Infinitis — as the equivalent of Acuras. "There is a bit of questioning as to where (Acura's) exact competition lives," Drury says.
The same thing is repeated in 1996 when the RL debuted, in 2005 when the 2nd gen debuted and now 2013 with the RLX. Same comments, same car/effort, same results. Sure the SH-AWD version will be better, at 70k and no one buys a 50k Acura let alone a 70k one. Then that market is super niche with the GS 450h and M35h, we are talking 150-200cars tops between them a month. Why would they even waste their time in that niche?

This car offers NO VALUE for its price, you are getting a lesser FWD car with technology everyone else had years ago. Why does it cost so much? For a bigger backseat? Lol.

The GS needed a big boost with the 4th gen and they got it right, sales show it, its best handling in class, maybe best interior in class, it has elevated Lexus. Lexus did their HW to make sure the 4GS was a knock-out. Acura repeats history then a handful of fans who don't get it blame everything else but Honda or say "oh it will be a great by in 2 years when its 15k". Well that only hurts Acura. These reviews are average at best, they are not overflowing with praise for being good looking, great driving, a great buy etc. Its not being the most luxurious, the most sporty, the cheapest, the best looking. Its MIDDLE again in a very hot segment. Acura cannot afford to be middle.

Good luck selling a 50-60k FWD RLX and a 60-70k AWD RLX that looks just like an Accord.




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Old 02-19-13, 10:24 PM
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FWD, RWD , no offense but this Acura is just going to go the same way as the Infiniti M, people just aren't seeing the value in spending $50-60,000 for a Acura or Infiniti, unless it's a 4x4, like the MDX or JX.
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^^^ the comments of the guy from Auto Week make me laugh so hard!
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Old 03-04-13, 01:32 PM
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^^ Agreed. Best review ever.
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Old 03-04-13, 01:49 PM
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Awesome reviewer. I'd like to see more of his reviews and comments
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Old 03-04-13, 05:27 PM
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His review is spot on. I like how he doesn't sugar coat things. RLX has features that were debut on cars YEARS ago.
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Old 03-04-13, 05:29 PM
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tails are so bad looking...
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Old 03-04-13, 06:56 PM
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Pretty funny buScott Oldham an editor of Edmunds.com, sent this tweet on the RLX:

I think I've been driving a 2014 @Acura_Insider #RLX for the last two days, but I can't remember. And that's my review.

The more things change, the more they stay the same with Acura.

I'm also glad Motorweek pointed out that all the new tech in the RLX has been around for sometimes now. Its always perplexing to see people say "Acura has technology" or "Acura has all this tech" and well, they don't. Guess they are not enthusiasts.
 


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