I can confirm that Michigan roads definitely do SUCK big time. I have family in Bay City. Holy hell you'd think it was a war zone. The state and many towns are broke, no money to fix or even maintain things.

 

Yeah. Fortunately I live down here in the very southwest corner of Utah at about 2500 ft, rather than up north.

 

But not all Euro cars are tight and stiff, many are cushy and comfy. A e350 or 5 series non sport drive like Camrys so to speak,, very comfy and not harsh at all. Awd models are pretty cushy as well. When you get to sport models and cars with lower profile tires, yeah it's harsh. But not all euro cars drive like ferrari's like some people on the Internet would have you believe.

I wish the new Rav-4 kept the v-6 but at least the Camry keeps it

 

Toytoa Updates Camry Sedan for 2013

Toyota's Camry sedan was just redesigned for the 2012 model year, but the Japanese automaker is already updated the mid-sizer with new interior refinements. The Camry's updates will bow for the 2013 model year.

In an effort to improve the Camry's interior appointments, Toyota is replacing the sedan's hard-touch door panels with new soft-touch units. The softer door panels will be installed on LE trim levels and above (including Hybrid), meaning Camry L buyers will still have to make due with the 2012 model's hard plastics.

However, base model Camrys (Camry L, Camry Hybrid LE) do gain Toyota's Display Audio screen as standard equipment for 2013.

For 2013 all Camry LE models will come with center armrests that match the car's interior color. In 2012, the Camry LE's center armrests were black, regardless of interior color.

Finally, Toyota is adding a rear cross traffic alert to 2013 Camry models equipped with the automaker's Blind Spot Monitor system.

The 2013 Toyota Camry is available for order now.

 

Say what? The 2013 Camry has been on sale for months. Do they mean the 2014??? Either way, this should be an embarassment to the company to have to do such trim changes so early on. This is the same story as the Civic's emergency refresh, just on a smaller scale. Both are shameful misteps that these automakers should know better with. It's only been 15-20 years now that Counsumer Reports, all auto magazines, and most carblog sites have put trim and materials at the top of the list and under the magnifying glass.

 

Nope this is Toyota realizing that the Camry is the most important Lexus/Toyota vehicle ever made.

Glad they made the minor enhancments.

 

I haven't seen them in person, but found these two pics from carmax new photos. 2013 has the extra stitching ornamentation.

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2013

 

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Please. The 2013 Camry has only gone on sale recently. The 2013 model wasn't even on Toyota's website until a few weeks ago. Late last year they were still selling 2012 models.

The work on this generation Camry was started before Akio Toyoda became CEO; he didn't have as huge of an influence on this car as some of the newer Toyota and Lexus products.

This is not as bad as the Civic, which has several glaring flaws. Hundreds of thousands of happy 2012 Camry owners in the US can't be wrong. Unlike the Civic, the Camry never had a ride quality problem to begin with, a schizophrenic handling problem, or the existing problem the Civic still has which is an ergonomically goofy interior and 1980's interior boxy styling.

Furthermore, it's good that Toyota is being pro-active and making improvements to the materials as opposed to doing nothing.

Besides, the mid-cycle refresh for the Camry should be substantial. It's great to see they upgraded the interior even before the mid-cycle update arrives.

Quite a noticeable improvement, very nice . Less beige and more black material also gives it a classier look.

 

Nice little updates. Every little bit counts!

 

good updates

 

All they did was put the XLE vinyl padded areas on the LEs and SEs that don't have leather. And only on the front doors, because they've learned another stupid cost cutting move from GM by cheapening out on the back doors. They changed the headliner to a woven cloth too and added the stitching to the XLE door panels to distinguish it from the lesser models.

An improvement, but not where it needs to be and it should've been done from the start.

 

I am curious to hear your opinion in thiS. Where do the improvements need to be?

 

You guys are too kind. It's nice Toyota is making hurried improvements, but it's uncharacteristic and should not have had to happen in the first place. Now, adding more black to a light-colored interior is backward and actually another cost-cutting measure. Black simulates vinyl and cookie-cutter cheapness (one color for all interior trim colors = cost-savings). This is a step backwards. The color-matched 2012 with diagonal stitch line looks richer.

 

so no kaizen anymore... lol.

 

My wife and I looked at a 2012 Camry. We had been looking at other cars within the same category that day. We both sat in a Camry in the Toyota dealer's showroom, took a look around, got out of the vehicle and walked out of the dealer's door. It's clear the Camry sells on its badge rather than its qualities. It was horribly uncompetitive.

I also think it's foolish that in order to get the less ugly SE model one must forgo the amenities found in the XLE.