2013 Lexus GS 350 F Sport
11-27-12, 11:53 AM
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It's a Lexus, which means it needs to be seen in person. There are a lot of little details in the design that you notice walking up to the car that don't translate in polished static photos.
11-27-12, 08:23 PM
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The owner of the Toyota dealership in my town has a Liquid Platinum F-Sport and one of his sales drones was filling it up at the local gas station at dusk last night and the light was accenting all the body lines on the side profile wonderfully. The GS is a beautiful car.
11-27-12, 08:45 PM
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They also said the 2GS was introduced in 1998. Didn't that start production in early August of 1997, so why are they getting those things wrong? It's sad when journalists fail to be attentive nowadays and make frequent mistakes. Being a grammar ****, as a kid I remember when never seeing a typo or an error in a car magazine. Today it's the opposite and of course, less content and more filler.
11-27-12, 08:59 PM
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I love the 4GS.
I always wondered though, did the Lexus engineers really do the right choice by putting a 6 speed? I mean they said it would be better than putting an 8 speed, but is that really true? Or are they just holding up the 8 speed for the next update maybe?
The reason i say this is because the 3IS is supposed to get an 8 speed on some versions, so it would make sense to have an 8 speed on the GS as well.
I always wondered though, did the Lexus engineers really do the right choice by putting a 6 speed? I mean they said it would be better than putting an 8 speed, but is that really true? Or are they just holding up the 8 speed for the next update maybe?
The reason i say this is because the 3IS is supposed to get an 8 speed on some versions, so it would make sense to have an 8 speed on the GS as well.
11-27-12, 09:03 PM
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They also said the 2GS was introduced in 1998. Didn't that start production in early August of 1997, so why are they getting those things wrong? It's sad when journalists fail to be attentive nowadays and make frequent mistakes. Being a grammar ****, as a kid I remember when never seeing a typo or an error in a car magazine. Today it's the opposite and of course, less content and more filler.
11-27-12, 09:40 PM
#22
Either 8 or 6 gears are fine with me. Rev matching, true manual control, torque lock (in all but first) and fast shifting (100 milliseconds) (as with the IS-F) are of more interest to me.
Thanks.
11-27-12, 09:51 PM
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Good to know and answers one of the questions I have about the car. Do you know if the GS F-Sport also allows true manual shifting and not just gear limiting?
Either 8 or 6 gears are fine with me. Rev matching, true manual control, torque lock (in all but first) and fast shifting (100 milliseconds) (as with the IS-F) are of more interest to me.
Thanks.
Either 8 or 6 gears are fine with me. Rev matching, true manual control, torque lock (in all but first) and fast shifting (100 milliseconds) (as with the IS-F) are of more interest to me.
Thanks.
11-27-12, 09:51 PM
#24
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You need to set the drivetrain to manual mode and turn the control **** to Sport S+ settings before you get "true manual shifting."
11-27-12, 10:57 PM
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Maybe in time it will grow on me, time will tell.
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11-27-12, 11:33 PM
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Add me as another who doesn't care for the front end styling. There's nothing classy, graceful, or sexy about it. It's just plain strange.
11-28-12, 12:19 AM
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I was just wondering thats all, either way i think the 4GS is a beautiful Lexus. I really like the direction Lexus is going.
11-28-12, 01:52 AM
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8 speed is marketing mandatory... i think it is a lot more needed in my country where we drive 100 Mph on highway than in US, but that doesnt matter... everyone has it and so you have to have it.
11-28-12, 06:04 AM
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i dont think so... they will never put another gear to 60... they add one additional O/D gear and then one between current 3rd and 5th gear to improve performance at mid range.
So you can see better 1/4 maybe... and between 0-130 mph for sure.. or better 50-75, 80-120... but not 0-60.
So you can see better 1/4 maybe... and between 0-130 mph for sure.. or better 50-75, 80-120... but not 0-60.
---- IS-F mph GS350 mph
1st 13.50 39 12.74 41
2nd 8.00 66 7.38 71
3rd 5.47 96 5.07 103
4th 4.30 122 3.62 142
5th 3.62 146 2.61 142
6th 2.94 170 2.14 142
7th 2.42 170
8th 2.01 170
1st and 2nd are definitely shorter on the 8-speed, even though 62 mph still arrives on 2nd gear.
So, assuming the GS350 had the IS-F 8-speed and axle, the torque on wheels will have an increase of 6.0% in 1st gear and 8.4% on 2nd. This would lead to at least 6% better 0-60 time, which will translate into 0-60 time of 5.4 sec instead of 5.7.
And then they can further improve that by putting a 6.5% shorter ratio axle on the GS until they match the ratios of the 8-th gear to the existing 6th gear to keep the same fuel economy... And that would bring 0-60 to 5.2 s easily.
11-28-12, 08:01 AM
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The chassis of the vehicle has been drastically improved over the previous model...............to the point that this 4GS NEEDS a V8 ENGINE!!! 
I hope to see a UR series engine in the 4GS life cycle soon =)
I hope to see a UR series engine in the 4GS life cycle soon =)