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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Fawk....GS F....Coupe..IS.... they tryna make me buy 3 cars next year?

(revises budget)
I know how you feel man.

Thinking of getting an SUV and either a GS F or Lexus coupe...
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Old Sep 28, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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This looks like it's just about ready to dance on the streets. Just a few tweaks here and there and "presto!", this is a production car. Looks waaaay better than all the dufus photoshops of a possible GS coupe. Bring it!
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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Default Lexus to Introduce New Coupe Model?



According to a CarAdvice interview with the president of Lexus International, Kiyotaka Ise, the LF-CC concept that debuted last week at the Paris Motor Show may be a preview of the next-generation IS and a brand new separate coupe model:

Lexus used the 2012 Paris motor show to unveil its LF-CC concept that previews the company’s next-generation IS.

Ise-san, however, suggested the production version of the 3-Series coupe rival may adopt a different badge to the IS sedan.

“We’re not saying this is an IS coupe,” he said, “but it is a D-segment [3 Series class] car.”

Ise-san said the new IS sedan and the spin-off two-door will challenge the BMW 3 Series for driver enjoyment.

This would definitely add weight to the theory that the LF-CC is an composite of two distinct models — in fact, mentioning BMW as a main competitor may foreshadow Lexus’s strategy.


For the first time ever, BMW will be separating their entry-level model into two separate designations — the sedan will remain a 3-series, while the coupe & convertible will become the all-new 4-series. These newly-divided models from BMW will have one other key difference beside the number of doors* — the 4-series will be longer, placing it between the 3-series and 5-series sedans in length.

While it’s just pure guesswork on my part, it’s possible that Lexus may do something similar by making this new coupe bigger than an IS but smaller than the GS — this would have the potential of appealing to both IS & GS buyers looking for a coupe, and it opens the door for a future coupe to sit between the GS & LS.

But beyond all the speculation on size, the name itself makes for a good guessing game — what do you think this new model be called?

(* I purposely ignored the BMW 4-series four-door gran coupe, which just confuses everything.)
http://lexusenthusiast.com/2012/10/0...el/#more-11855
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 08:18 AM
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It does get confusing. I'd like to think that since BMW has the:

3 Series
- Sedan
- Convertible
- Coupe
- Wagon

One would think Lexus would create an IS coupe to be included within the IS line. What will happen to the IS convertible?

If the LF-CC becomes a new model maybe it could be call JS 300h or IC 300h? At this point it could have any letter combination as it's designation but since it'll have a 2.5 liter hybrid engine it would be safe to assume that it's numerical designation would be 300h.
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 08:28 AM
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From what I understand the 3 Series will now only be a sedan and wagon.

The 4 Series which is just a bit longer will come in coupe, convertible, and grand-coupe.

If this concept does preview a new model, Lexus IC sounds good to me.
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Trexus
It does get confusing. I'd like to think that since BMW has the:

3 Series
- Sedan
- Convertible
- Coupe
- Wagon

One would think Lexus would create an IS coupe to be included within the IS line. What will happen to the IS convertible?

If the LF-CC becomes a new model maybe it could be call JS 300h or IC 300h? At this point it could have any letter combination as it's designation but since it'll have a 2.5 liter hybrid engine it would be safe to assume that it's numerical designation would be 300h.

they are all moving to new models so they can charge more and provide difference experience... like A5 and A7.
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Old Oct 3, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by GS3Tek
Love the new pictures
I'm trying to keep an open mind (only b/c I was disappointed in the back end of the GS production version after seeing the concept version).
Yep, I am trying to stay positive, because I LOVE this concept. However, I was sooooo disappointed in the 4GS' rear proportions as compared to its concept's. Many fingers crossed that more of this LF-CC's rear end makes it into productions.
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Old Oct 4, 2012 | 08:31 AM
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Default Camouflaged Next-Generation Lexus IS Spotted in Europe

The next-generation Lexus IS has been spotted again, this time in a eye-deceiving swirl-pattern body wrap — here are some photos from Autowereld:







Unlike the previous camouflage, some design details of the new IS can be seen, and what’s visible looks very similar to the LF-CC concept:





It’s always difficult to judge camouflaged vehicles — the next-generation IS appears ever-so-slightly bigger, with a similar profile to the current model. What little detail can be seen is very encouraging, but there’s still too much hidden by swirls to get an accurate read.

http://lexusenthusiast.com/#ktAg5HHtymOcmWd8.99
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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Lexus IS Coupe Concept Not an IS Coupe
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-is-coupe.html
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 09:02 AM
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JAPAN is readying a potential rival to the BMW M3.

Lexus is doing the work and it's reflected in the great looking LF-CC concept car at the Paris motor show.

The new coupe is clearly a pointer to next year's replacement for the compact IS four-door sedan but, even more, the pumped-up look and a high-performance hybrid power pack point to a bigger target.

"This is the concept for the coupe that we want to launch as soon as possible. In the near future. One or two years," the president of Lexus International, Kiyotaka Ise, confirms to Carsguide at the Paris motor show.
He laughs when the talk turns to a Lexus rival to the M3.
But there is no denial.

"Steadily I think the driving performance is going up. In terms of driving performance, people are looking for and wanting a more aggressive driving performance," he says.

And what about the size and design future of the IS, as reflected in the LF-CC?

"This is a similar size type to an IS," Ise admits. "We're not really in a position to say anything but we're not denying it. It's not an IS coupe, but I think it will meet your expectation."

Earlier this year, Carsguide was told of a plan for TMG, which produced Toyota's latest hybrid Le Mans racer, to expand its German base into a facility to rival Mercedes AMG and BMW M. The announcement was made by the head of TMG, Yoshiaki Kino****a.

But Ise denies any plan and is defiant on Kino****a's announcement.
"I don't care what he says. We don't have any plans to have TMG be like AMG."

Even so, he says the technology in the Lexus V10-powered supercar, the LF-A, is trickling down through the range and the company is looking to boost its following with luxury buyers.

"For our competitors - Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Audi - driving performance is very important. We want to have an emotional driving connection," he says.
"I think when the car reaches the certain level, it's not whether you win or lose. It's the preference. I think it's more a matter of taste for the driver. But I think we've reached the top."

In the case of the upcoming IS, the focus is switching to hybrid power. The LF-CC concept is fitted with a car that combines a 2.5-litre four-cylinder petrol engine with electric power, aiming for CO2 emissions of less than 100g/km.

But it's still a performance pack and the engine combines an Atkinson combustion cycle with direct fuel injection. The concept is also rear-wheel drive.

"I think it's actually an advantage for us," says Ise, who also believes Toyota still leads on hybrids. "In technology, volume and quality we are superior.
http://www.news.com.au/news/lexus-hy...#ixzz28RO64vGw
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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A production coupe based on the Lexus LF-CC is still one to two years away, according to a news.com.au interview with the president of Lexus International, Kiyotaka Ise:

“[The LF-CC] is the concept for the coupe that we want to launch as soon as possible. In the near future. One or two years,” the president of Lexus International, Kiyotaka Ise, confirms to Carsguide at the Paris motor show.

And what about the size and design future of the IS, as reflected in the LF-CC?
“This is a similar size type to an IS,” Ise admits. “We’re not really in a position to say anything but we’re not denying it. It’s not an IS coupe, but I think it will meet your expectation.”

While this may be a case of Lexus managing expectations, a two-year timeframe is not unusual — BMW introduced the new 3-series sedan last October and have yet to release the rumored 4-series coupe, while the gap between the Mercedes C-Class sedan and coupe was four years long.

Still, this does mean a long wait until the Lexus lineup has a coupe.
(Ise-san’s comments also confirm one other point — this coupe will not share the same name with the IS.)
http://lexusenthusiast.com/#B2esaCvfJZmWy5T3.99
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 11:46 AM
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Haha, interesting that he rebuked the earlier talks of TMG becoming like AMG for Toyota. It confirms my suspicion then that it was a half-baked idea proposed by TMG without really consulting with the plans of Lexus and its F brand.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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I was just thinking of possible names for the LF-CC production version since it will likely not bear the IS name or a derivative of it such as IC or IS-C. But what about having a 3 letter name like the LFA? I could see Lexus doing this for its future coupes since they have complained about running out of names (especially with companies like Mazda, Hyundai, and Infiniti using similar branding to Lexus in some of their cars). But I find it hard to find a good 3 letter name, LFC? LFI? On the other hand, I want to keep the LFA (and its successors) as the only 3 letter car in the lineup to keep it even more special.
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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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^^ Funny story about what "LF-A" really means and/or meant and how it got its real name....

I sometimes LOL when I read how people break down the "LFA" name and give it some never intended definitions....

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Old Oct 5, 2012 | 09:39 PM
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Well according to the wiki, it means Lexus Fuji Apex. Are you saying it was origi ally something generic like "Lexus Future - A"?
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