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cdvmagic Sep 10, 2012 08:32 PM

Big problem with Land Cruiser's tranny
 
So I have a friend here who has a Land Cruiser but I don't know what year it is but I guess early 90's.
He drove the car and the car was fine and he parked it and left it there for several months but now he went to start the car again and the car started up fine but it won't move anywhere.
He towed it to a mechanic and the mechanic said that the transmission is burned up.
I told him that it is very rare for a tranny to go bad on a Toyota so to look at something else like maybe a clogged filter or maybe a rat ate the wires that connects the ECU with the tranny or something.
Do some of you have a suggestion on what else to check to see if something is clogged or something else?
Since he says that the car ran fine on the last day he drove it I am sceptical that it is the transmission itself.
So please any suggestion?

LeX2K Sep 10, 2012 08:43 PM

Is there fluid in the transmission? What year? Mileage? Maintenance history?

cdvmagic Sep 10, 2012 09:24 PM

It's not my car so I don't know what year it is or it's service history or anything all I know is that it ran fine the last time he drove it and now it doesn't reverse or go forward

pbm317 Sep 10, 2012 09:55 PM

20 year old car, sat for a few months... there could be lots of issues at play

Toys4RJill Sep 10, 2012 10:01 PM

Maybe the dog had its tail in the tailpipe.

<VENOM> Sep 11, 2012 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by pbm317 (Post 7477192)
20 year old car, sat for a few months... there could be lots of issues at play

There's your sign:sad:

cdvmagic Oct 9, 2012 08:41 PM

Ok now so like seriously is there anybody here that can help me?
I.m planning to work on this car next week but I'll need some advice to help me.
Just because the car sat for 6 months doesn't mean a thing because I know people who let their car sit for 3 years and the transmission didn't go bad.
Hell my dad bought a Cadillac El Dorado that has been sitting for 26 years and the transmission still worked.
So there has to be something else.
Is it ok if I operate the tranny without the filter to see if it works?
Will it damage the tranny if I operate it without filter?
Because I'm assuming that it's a clogged filter here.
Can any of you suggest on what else I can look at?
How do I check for codes?
The same way as I do it on my Lexus or is it different?
I'm guessing if the tranny is really broken it should give me a code right?

jcat_350 Oct 9, 2012 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by cdvmagic (Post 7532909)
Ok now so like seriously is there anybody here that can help me?
I.m planning to work on this car next week but I'll need some advice to help me.
Just because the car sat for 6 months doesn't mean a thing because I know people who let their car sit for 3 years and the transmission didn't go bad.
Hell my dad bought a Cadillac El Dorado that has been sitting for 26 years and the transmission still worked.
So there has to be something else.
Is it ok if I operate the tranny without the filter to see if it works?
Will it damage the tranny if I operate it without filter?
Because I'm assuming that it's a clogged filter here.
Can any of you suggest on what else I can look at?
How do I check for codes?
The same way as I do it on my Lexus or is it different?
I'm guessing if the tranny is really broken it should give me a code right?

if hardware is broken you won't get a code. However, if wires are chewed or electronics fail you probably would. The trans filter is likely at least partly to blame. Don't run it without a filter. Just replace it, you're going to the trouble of removing it anyway, put a fresh one in there with new fluid and see if she goes.

Cars are made differently. The torque converter could have gone, or check the 4wd transfer case selector lever. Those trucks, like a land rover I had, are primarily RWD, 4wd only with the shifter. If you put that shifter to the center, it disconnects the driveline at the transfer case. With the truck in park, shift that between low range, high range and 2wd, see if that helps.

Like others have said, it's a 20 year old truck that sat for a while. You may not think it's a long time, but if it wasn't started at all, it could be problematic. Start simple, work toward complicated.

I8ABMR Oct 10, 2012 01:14 PM

Sounds like the car is about 20 years old. This means its also about time for a new ride it sounds like

mmarshall Oct 10, 2012 01:19 PM

Transmissions, like engines and differential/final-drive units, aren't designed to just sit for months without being driven. The extended lack of fluid-circulation and lubrication could have allowed the seals to deteriorate, allowing some of the fluid to leak out...maybe enough to keep it from operating.

spwolf Oct 10, 2012 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by cdvmagic (Post 7477127)
It's not my car so I don't know what year it is or it's service history or anything all I know is that it ran fine the last time he drove it and now it doesn't reverse or go forward

how can someone here help you when even you have not a slightest idea about the car?

i would check land cruiser forums.... and try another mechanic for different opinion.

cdvmagic Oct 10, 2012 08:34 PM

The car was build around 96 I guess.
This guy cannot afford a new ride so this is supposed to be his ride but we have to fix it.
That's why he can't buy a new filter to put in it so we're gonna have to fix it without buying parts or only buy1 part when we're sure that that's the part that needs to be replaced he can't afford to buy parts just for guesswork.
How do you check for troublecodes on these cars?
The same way you do it with a Lexus?
Is this car Obd 1 or Obd 2?
And is the transmission mechanicly controlled or electronicly controlled?

pbm317 Oct 10, 2012 08:44 PM

You really just need to find a mechanic that you trust.

jcat_350 Oct 11, 2012 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by cdvmagic (Post 7534949)
The car was build around 96 I guess.
This guy cannot afford a new ride so this is supposed to be his ride but we have to fix it.
That's why he can't buy a new filter to put in it so we're gonna have to fix it without buying parts or only buy1 part when we're sure that that's the part that needs to be replaced he can't afford to buy parts just for guesswork.
How do you check for troublecodes on these cars?
The same way you do it with a Lexus?
Is this car Obd 1 or Obd 2?
And is the transmission mechanicly controlled or electronicly controlled?

you should not be working on this car.

In order to know OBD1 vs OBD2, you need to know the model year. If it's pre 1996, it's OBD1.

How do you expect to fix a part of a car that's gone wrong without replacing or buying parts? Diagnosing a problem is just that..guesswork. You start with the simplest stuff, eliminate that from the list of possible issues and continue on from there. A new trans filter WITH PAN GASKET goes for about $30 bucks. If he can't afford $30 for the filter to try and fix the car, how's he going to put gas in that pig and drive it anywhere?

LeX2K Oct 11, 2012 09:29 AM

OBD-II became mandatory in 1996, some cars like the V6 Camry and ES300 had it in 1994.


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