Acura's "beak" is here to stay
06-19-12, 11:10 PM
#31
Acura is just so far behind period. Their build quality isn't actually as good as some may think. The interior quality of the leather is TERRIBLE. All of my friends with 3rd Gen Acura TLs (the one pervious to the current ugly model), all of them, the leather is falling apart. The side bolsters are starting to show a lot of wear. The perforation in the seats aren't even perforated anymore because they've been so worn. Next time I'm I see my friends, i'll take pics of how bad their driver seat is compared to my IS F. The build quality is suffering along with their designs and sales.
Yeah...who knows what those guys are thinking....
Yeah...who knows what those guys are thinking....
06-20-12, 08:15 AM
#33
Lexus Champion
It looks like Acura designers are making the decision to go down with the ship.
That's just good news for Lexus, Audi, BMW, and MB.
Everyone on ClubLexus has been calling Acura out on its missteps for years and it should be no surprise to anyone that Acura still has its head in the sand.
That's just good news for Lexus, Audi, BMW, and MB.
Everyone on ClubLexus has been calling Acura out on its missteps for years and it should be no surprise to anyone that Acura still has its head in the sand.
06-20-12, 08:49 AM
#34
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by cino
True. I'd had Honda cars and bikes, the build quality is really awesome.
It's possible, as Just F Me pointed out, that Honda/Acura leather may not always be the best, and, yes, the new Civic has a lot of cheap plastic inside. But, when you examine the fit/finish and overall assembly quality of their products, work the smooth-operating controls, shut the Swiss-watch-precise doors, etc.... Honda simply wrote the book on how to assemble a vehicle at the factory. It can be argued, though, that, for the money, Toyota/Lexus and Audi have the best paint-jobs, but a number of other manufacturers are now close.....GM and Chrysler, especially, have shown vast improvements in the last couple of years.
Last edited by mmarshall; 06-20-12 at 09:02 AM.
06-20-12, 11:12 AM
#37
Lexus Test Driver
They crack and wrinkle very easily. This is one of the downfall of Acura interiors (sorta how Audi interior downfall is how the coating peels off the buttons and ***** after time).
06-22-12, 02:23 PM
#39
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Whats really just ridiculous while Acura styling in the past might have been at worst bland, in most cases it was at least handsome or fine! I never recalled anyone in the past in conversations *****ing about Acura styling. I think most even agree cars like NSX, 2nd gen Legend, 3rd gen TL are quite awesome designs. What people *****ed about was
-no RWD
-no V-8 or true power
-no sports cars
-no real luxury options/features
-no hybrids
-cheaper quality of materials
etc etc
Styling actually was a plus for them or at least a non-issue. The problem of styling is the core of Acura's problem as Honda has limited them by not investing in them to be a real luxury marque. So instead of investing in new drivetrains and new engines we got new styling in the same old package with 5 speed automatics (finally OMG updated to 6 in some cases). They fooled themselves if they thought luxury buyers were that easy to fool outside of their most loyal fans. They have lost so many loyal buyers b/c of stubborness to elevate themselves and their styling its sad to watch. . Recent data again shows most Acura's are crosshopped with Hondas and Toyotas first and then luxury brands.
Then from a design standpoint a grill is there to let air in yet here they are blocking air with a plastic chrome beak. It goes against good design down to the root. You know you have a design problem when the first thing people say is "hey can I paint the grill body color" to hide the very thing Acura wants to showcase. I don't want to hear their lame excuse 'OMG THE MARKET IMPLODED" when seemingly every other brand continued to forge ahead with their plans. They didn't blame the market and cancel important projects. This is the same company who's CEO said "The Honda Crosstour styling is fine". Seriously are they that stubborn/oblivious?
"I told you so" isn't quite fitting. But "I told you so".
-no RWD
-no V-8 or true power
-no sports cars
-no real luxury options/features
-no hybrids
-cheaper quality of materials
etc etc
Styling actually was a plus for them or at least a non-issue. The problem of styling is the core of Acura's problem as Honda has limited them by not investing in them to be a real luxury marque. So instead of investing in new drivetrains and new engines we got new styling in the same old package with 5 speed automatics (finally OMG updated to 6 in some cases). They fooled themselves if they thought luxury buyers were that easy to fool outside of their most loyal fans. They have lost so many loyal buyers b/c of stubborness to elevate themselves and their styling its sad to watch. . Recent data again shows most Acura's are crosshopped with Hondas and Toyotas first and then luxury brands.
Then from a design standpoint a grill is there to let air in yet here they are blocking air with a plastic chrome beak. It goes against good design down to the root. You know you have a design problem when the first thing people say is "hey can I paint the grill body color" to hide the very thing Acura wants to showcase. I don't want to hear their lame excuse 'OMG THE MARKET IMPLODED" when seemingly every other brand continued to forge ahead with their plans. They didn't blame the market and cancel important projects. This is the same company who's CEO said "The Honda Crosstour styling is fine". Seriously are they that stubborn/oblivious?
"I told you so" isn't quite fitting. But "I told you so".
06-22-12, 09:47 PM
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06-23-12, 11:53 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
You know you have a design problem when the first thing people say is "hey can I paint the grill body color" to hide the very thing Acura wants to showcase.
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