View Poll Results: What if Lexus made the CT F? Would you consider it?
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So if Mercedes is making an A Class AMG, what if Lexus had a CT F?
06-15-12, 02:32 PM
#17
Guest
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You probably are unaware that most laugh at your posts here
but I'll tell you anyway. Your response is to predictable, mentioning Toyota 100 times when we are actually discussing the Lexus CT. To say they don't have the R&D is beyond ridiculous since Toyota's R&D budget I believe is the largest in the industry.
If they wanted to go the German route they could ala RS3 and slap a similar engine into the CT like the 3.5 V-6 which may have stated. With the proper traction it could be an incredible pocket rocket.
Lexus needs to build this car even if it makes no sense, they sell 500 and its $50,000. Someone will buy it and it extends the "F" Marque and puts it in a rare segment not many are in.
AWD is not a necessity. I had the pleasure of talking and inspecting a 300hp Focus RS from Europe/Mexico recently and the car is simply wicked even with FWD, my thread here was posted with pictures.
Some of us like to provide proof and meet people on CL, it adds credibility to posts.
but I'll tell you anyway. Your response is to predictable, mentioning Toyota 100 times when we are actually discussing the Lexus CT. To say they don't have the R&D is beyond ridiculous since Toyota's R&D budget I believe is the largest in the industry. If they wanted to go the German route they could ala RS3 and slap a similar engine into the CT like the 3.5 V-6 which may have stated. With the proper traction it could be an incredible pocket rocket.
Lexus needs to build this car even if it makes no sense, they sell 500 and its $50,000. Someone will buy it and it extends the "F" Marque and puts it in a rare segment not many are in.
AWD is not a necessity. I had the pleasure of talking and inspecting a 300hp Focus RS from Europe/Mexico recently and the car is simply wicked even with FWD, my thread here was posted with pictures.
Some of us like to provide proof and meet people on CL, it adds credibility to posts.
06-16-12, 08:19 AM
#18
Lexus Fanatic
Well, if they don't, then who does, except for perhaps General Motors? 
And even GM is not nearly the same-size corporation it was several years ago. Toyota is, (arguably), the biggest-money auto-manufacturer on the planet.
And even GM is not nearly the same-size corporation it was several years ago. Toyota is, (arguably), the biggest-money auto-manufacturer on the planet.
06-16-12, 01:06 PM
#19
Lexus Champion
[QUOTE=1SICKLEX;7299896]
AWD is not a necessity. I had the pleasure of talking and inspecting a 300hp Focus RS from Europe/Mexico recently and the car is simply wicked even with FWD, my thread here was posted with pictures. /QUOTE]
@1SICK/Mike (is your name Mike? If not, I apologize and please discard)
You do raise an interesting point about high-performance on an FWD vehicle.
Apparently, some people may scared of such an idea.........because any FWD vehicle that is 300 horsepower or more risks of being susceptible to a dangerous phenomenon known as 'torque steer'
Thankfully, I think Ford uses countermeasures like "Revoknuckle" as well as their QUAIFE Limited Slip Differential.
Point is: Nothing to worry about (in this case)
Anyways, I'll just say my thought on a possible approach to a CT-F
I think the idea of a high performance CT version would depend on which direction Lexus wants to take their CT.
Do they want to diversify their powertrain options OR do they want the CT to be ALL-HYBRID across the board???
AWD is not a necessity. I had the pleasure of talking and inspecting a 300hp Focus RS from Europe/Mexico recently and the car is simply wicked even with FWD, my thread here was posted with pictures. /QUOTE]
@1SICK/Mike (is your name Mike? If not, I apologize and please discard)
You do raise an interesting point about high-performance on an FWD vehicle.
Apparently, some people may scared of such an idea.........because any FWD vehicle that is 300 horsepower or more risks of being susceptible to a dangerous phenomenon known as 'torque steer'
Thankfully, I think Ford uses countermeasures like "Revoknuckle" as well as their QUAIFE Limited Slip Differential.
Point is: Nothing to worry about (in this case)
Anyways, I'll just say my thought on a possible approach to a CT-F
I think the idea of a high performance CT version would depend on which direction Lexus wants to take their CT.
Do they want to diversify their powertrain options OR do they want the CT to be ALL-HYBRID across the board???
06-16-12, 08:05 PM
#20
Lexus Fanatic
That's one reason, BTW, why our personal auto reviews have different titles......1SICKReview and MM Review. Helps differentiate them.
06-19-12, 04:28 PM
#22
Lexus Test Driver
It would have to be rear wheel drive to start. Also people buy BMW and AMG as a starting point because there is huge aftermarket potential. Until Lexus cars are tunable (read, ECU) they will always have limited appeal. It will never happen, I can't even use my navigation while I'm driving!
06-19-12, 11:34 PM
#23
Driver School Candidate
Ct-f
I think that for the ct f they should make it rwd 6 speed manual with a 2gr fse twin turbo charged or they can put In a 2urgse naturally aspirated with a f sport package: f tuned suspension , wheel, aero, brakes , interior, etc
07-18-12, 02:24 PM
#25
If they make a CT-F with 6 speed manual transmission that doesn't guzzle ridiculous amounts of fuel I will immediately buy it, no questions asked, no reviews needed. Fell in love with the car's looks and gas mileage immediately upon sight but the unbearably slow and uninspiring 136hp CVT put me off.
07-18-12, 07:24 PM
#26
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
If they make a CT-F with 6 speed manual transmission that doesn't guzzle ridiculous amounts of fuel I will immediately buy it, no questions asked, no reviews needed. Fell in love with the car's looks and gas mileage immediately upon sight but the unbearably slow and uninspiring 136hp CVT put me off.
07-18-12, 07:26 PM
#27
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
07-18-12, 08:19 PM
#28
Lexus Fanatic
Back to the OP, on the question of a CT F-Sport, after having reviewed and driven the CT, I felt that the standard suspension/chassis was easily stiff enough (and the handling sharp enough) that it didn't need a formal F-Package, at least for the chassis. IMO, what the CT has, right now, even in standard form, can probably pass for F-grade.
Those of you who have gotten used to a comfy ES or LS, for example, will probably be shocked by the difference in both ride-stiffness and steering/handling precision when you first sample a CT. Even in base form without an F-package, it is anything but Lexus-soft in its underpinnings.
Those of you who have gotten used to a comfy ES or LS, for example, will probably be shocked by the difference in both ride-stiffness and steering/handling precision when you first sample a CT. Even in base form without an F-package, it is anything but Lexus-soft in its underpinnings.
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-18-12 at 08:26 PM.
07-18-12, 09:29 PM
#29
The F line needs to expand, although I agree with the person who said it needs to expand to the GS model first.
And a question, can there be a policy to ban idiocy and subliminal trolling? The guy who 1SICKLEX responded to is an obvious Hyundai shill judging by his post history. Lexus lover my @#$$
And a question, can there be a policy to ban idiocy and subliminal trolling? The guy who 1SICKLEX responded to is an obvious Hyundai shill judging by his post history. Lexus lover my @#$$
07-18-12, 10:08 PM
#30
Lexus Connoisseur
Thread Starter
Back to the OP, on the question of a CT F-Sport, after having reviewed and driven the CT, I felt that the standard suspension/chassis was easily stiff enough (and the handling sharp enough) that it didn't need a formal F-Package, at least for the chassis. IMO, what the CT has, right now, even in standard form, can probably pass for F-grade.
Those of you who have gotten used to a comfy ES or LS, for example, will probably be shocked by the difference in both ride-stiffness and steering/handling precision when you first sample a CT. Even in base form without an F-package, it is anything but Lexus-soft in its underpinnings.
Those of you who have gotten used to a comfy ES or LS, for example, will probably be shocked by the difference in both ride-stiffness and steering/handling precision when you first sample a CT. Even in base form without an F-package, it is anything but Lexus-soft in its underpinnings.