LexFather

Yup. The CAmry has outsold the Accord since 2003. Mind you the Camry is now sedan only and the Accord includes coupes and Crosstour sales initially.

Carmaker1

LexFather

egads they don't learn

bitkahuna

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methinks thou doth protest too much.

UDel

Fleet sales have always accounted for a nice chunk of Camry/Toyota sales(around 15%-18% recently) where Honda/Accord only does a very very small number of fleet sales(about 2%) which is why Honda's have better resale value. The Big 3 fleet sales have always been very high, around 30% and in some cases over 30%.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2012...IL01/305149999

Retail: April 2012 April 2012 April 2011 April 2011 April %
retail sales % retail share retail sales % retail share change
General Motors 156,300 73% 156,500 67% 0%
Toyota Motor 150,900 85% 144,500 91% 4%
American Honda* 119,600 98% 122,300 98% -2%
Ford Motor 113,400 63% 121,500 64% -7%
Hyundai-Kia 98,900 90% 96,600 89% 2%
Chrysler Group 98,800 70% 77,200 66% 28%
Nissan N.A. 59,000 83% 62,100 87% -5%
Top 7 796,900 78% 780,700 78% 2%

Fleet: April 2012 April 2012 April 2011 April2011 fleet sales fleet sales % fleet fleet sales % fleet sales

Ford Motor 67,000 37% 68,300 36% -2%
General Motors 57,100 27% 76,000 33% -25%
Chrysler Group 42,400 30% 40,000 34% 6%
Toyota Motor 27,200 15% 15,000 9% 81%
Nissan N.A. 12,400 17% 9,400 13% 32%
Hyundai-Kia 10,900 10% 12,300 11% -11%
American Honda* 2,400 2% 2,500 2% -2%
Top 7 219,400 22% 223,500 22% -2%

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/16/t...d-fleet-sales/

LexFather

Sigh... Honda avengers about to assemble here

Again accord sales include coupes and crossturds until this year where they took accord out the name.

Both sell great, who gives a **** if the accord is 2nd? It's still outselling everything not Camry.

Vladi

While we're at it..

GiantsFan

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^Thats an Acura lol.

Carmaker1

Exactly, that's why I didn't even post them here. That's like posting 2007 LS spy images in a 2007 Camry thread back when both were testing in 2005.

Mr. Burns

The Acura should look very similar to the concept car.

LexFather

Not even close. The RL is accord based and the vast majority of people with working eyes have commented it looks too much like an Accord. Reading around people are confusing these two mules outside of the optional LED lamps and beak.

No one confuses LS and Camry spy pics unless they are idiots or trying to make a Jab at Lexus not to mention the LS sure as hell isn't Camry based.

Tantrix

wow this is going to give their own TSX and TL a run for their money.

with everyone trying to out do each other in midsized segment, they sure seem to be out doing themselves by canibalizing their upscale market with their midsized vehicle.

Looks nice so far.

Vladi

It's all Honda and it will be kind of interesting to compare developments of future Accord and RLX. Both stand as flagships for their respective brands.

I find it quite interesting that RLX ubber techno drivetrain debuted in Honda Accord first.

bitkahuna

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there's so many pics in this thread it's hard to know what is what and with all that camo, it's not clear at all whether a new accord and acura will be that similar.

maybe just wait and see?

bitkahuna

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agreed, just like camry outsells everything not ford f-150.