BMW M7 is coming, hell yes!!
07-16-12, 10:21 AM
#62
More news on the M7, sounds BS though, sounds like someone's prediction from educated guesses. The name M770i sounds unlikely and they got the power and torque rating of the current 760i completely wrong. But if is true, 475 hp and 4200 lbs give it about the same power to weight ratio as the current AMG S63.
http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/07/15/n...adged-variant/
http://www.gtspirit.com/2012/07/15/n...adged-variant/
According to a recent report, BMW will offer a high-performance version of the next generation 7-Series scheduled for 2015. But it won’t be an M7, but it will come close. The planned M770i xDrive will be powered by a 4.0 liter twin-turbo V8 with an output of 475 horsepower and 650Nm (480 lb-ft) of torque.
Although the V12 powered 760Li offers more power with its 570hp and 900Nm (665lb-ft) of torque, the M770i will provide more ‘sheer driving pleasure’ due to the extensive use of carbon fiber. The roof, trunk and hood will be made of this lightweight material. The four sports seats will shed some weight as well, just as carbon-ceramic brakes, a thin-wall exhaust with four tailpipes, and twenty-inch hollow-spoke wheels. The total amount of weight saved will be about 200kg or 450 pounds.
Although the V12 powered 760Li offers more power with its 570hp and 900Nm (665lb-ft) of torque, the M770i will provide more ‘sheer driving pleasure’ due to the extensive use of carbon fiber. The roof, trunk and hood will be made of this lightweight material. The four sports seats will shed some weight as well, just as carbon-ceramic brakes, a thin-wall exhaust with four tailpipes, and twenty-inch hollow-spoke wheels. The total amount of weight saved will be about 200kg or 450 pounds.
07-16-12, 11:40 AM
#63
My wife hating driving, so she never drives. But she is older than 18 years! 
I heard that news too, which is crazy! A Dinan 7 is 495hp! A M7 needs at least 560Hp which is how much M5 makes, and even then, I don't think it's enough for BMW's first M-powered 7. Come on, in this price range, it's all about bragging right!
I heard that news too, which is crazy! A Dinan 7 is 495hp! A M7 needs at least 560Hp which is how much M5 makes, and even then, I don't think it's enough for BMW's first M-powered 7. Come on, in this price range, it's all about bragging right!
07-16-12, 11:47 AM
#64
it's going to be a very tough sell at that kind of power. sorry, but at this segment, most buyers are in for bragging rights. with less than 500hp, yes power to weight ratio is good, but how many pay attention to that.
and no, sorry, i don't consider it m7
and no, sorry, i don't consider it m7
07-16-12, 11:50 AM
#65
It make sense, it is the only direction to go, engine power is max out now that all top luxury car are pushing 600 hp, but weight is huge, all are pushing 5~6k lbs. So if power stay at 500~600 lbs and weight come back down to 3~4k lbs..........wow. A future M5 will perform like today's MP4-12C!!
07-17-12, 12:02 PM
#68
The new Mulsanne is 750 lb-ft at 1800 rpm, OMG!!The only issue with the diesel is still, as good as modern diesel sounds, it still got a little of that old crappy diesel ticking sounds to it. As little as it is, it still sounds crappy and unrefined
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07-17-12, 12:28 PM
#70
yeah a lot of car buyers are idiots anyway, but then like it or not they make up most of the market. you can like all you want, but what sells is the key. with so much talk about a less than 500hp gsf won't really sell well against m5 and e63, it's hard to make a good case why a less than 500hp "m7" will sell well against s63. but then again, i think that's why they label it as 770i, without the m badge it might just be their ticket to get away
07-17-12, 12:50 PM
#72
Yes a turbo diesel powerband is ideal for a full size daily driver luxury sedan, I found this out after I test drove a few Bentley Arnages, that ultra low rpm totally relax feel with huge effortless torque is best for a comfy serene couch. I laughed out loud when I felt the 600 lb-ft at 2500 rpm, it is awesome The new Mulsanne is 750 lb-ft at 1800 rpm, OMG!!
The only issue with the diesel is still, as good as modern diesel sounds, it still got a little of that old crappy diesel ticking sounds to it. As little as it is, it still sounds crappy and unrefined
The new Mulsanne is 750 lb-ft at 1800 rpm, OMG!!The only issue with the diesel is still, as good as modern diesel sounds, it still got a little of that old crappy diesel ticking sounds to it. As little as it is, it still sounds crappy and unrefined
07-17-12, 06:06 PM
#74
Revving is for the weekend high strung spider when I want excitement, I want that to rev to 9k rpm.
For my serene daily couch though, I want the peak torque occurred at the lowest possible rpm, less rpm = more relax. Bentley got it and your 750i is the same way. I never rev my LS430 anymore then 3k rpm when I am trying to relax in my daily grind.
For my serene daily couch though, I want the peak torque occurred at the lowest possible rpm, less rpm = more relax. Bentley got it and your 750i is the same way. I never rev my LS430 anymore then 3k rpm when I am trying to relax in my daily grind.
Last edited by BNR34; 07-18-12 at 01:05 PM.
