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Old 02-23-11, 11:44 AM
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Default Hope for Ohioans - Bill Introduced to Abolish Front Plates

Ohio may be able to save $2M to (at last) ditch the front license plate.

http://www.thenews-messenger.com/art...-plate-save-2M
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Old 02-23-11, 12:55 PM
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Keep up the cost cutting, many billion more to go in so most states needed.
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Originally Posted by caddyowner
Ohio may be able to save $2M to (at last) ditch the front license plate.

http://www.thenews-messenger.com/art...-plate-save-2M


Some thing CA should be looking in to!!!
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Old 02-23-11, 03:13 PM
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Sure hope ca does this
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Why do we have front plates again?
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Well, I guess it's not that big of a deal, but how is Ohio going to save $2M? By not manufacturing the front (2nd) plate, the state will save money through manufacturing costs?

In CA, don't the prisoners at San Quentin still make the state's license plates? I remember when they did. Seems like a money saver to me.
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do they have speed trap cameras?

if they don't, the front plates are useless anyway
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Keep up the cost cutting, many billion more to go in so most states needed.
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"It's a cost-savings measure that can be accomplished in Ohio," he said. "It would seem like an economically sensible thing to do if it will save the state money, and it will.
I don't quite see how this is going to save state money. License plates, in most jurisdictions (and, as I understand it, Ohio is no different), are made in the State Penitentiary by the inmates confined there. They all earn the same amount (far below minimum wage), doing their assigned jobs each day, whether it is making license plates, doing other jobs around the prison compound, or working outside on road/chain gangs.
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If the state is going to save money by not having to make front plates for the public, they don't know how to price their license plates. I suspect the relatively small savings is from the elimination of front plates from state and local government owned vehicles.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I don't quite see how this is going to save state money. License plates, in most jurisdictions (and, as I understand it, Ohio is no different), are made in the State Penitentiary by the inmates confined there. They all earn the same amount (far below minimum wage), doing their assigned jobs each day, whether it is making license plates, doing other jobs around the prison compound, or working outside on road/chain gangs.
Small savings simply:

1. Labor cost, prisoners are paid (yes well below minimum wage) by the hour, they are not salaried and not given any guarantee of full workweek from a pay standpoint.

2. Direct material costs saved (metal, paint, as well as electricity and other indirect costs to run machinery).

3. Postage savings (2 plates weigh more.than 1).
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Originally Posted by tuan92129
Why do we have front plates again?
I raise the counter argument back: Why do some cars not have front plates?

This was one of the first things I've noticed during my first vacation to America April-May 2010 (California-Nevada and Utah).

My first impression was that some car owners are lazy to have front plates or are intentionally law breakers.

In fact, I even approached one automobile and examined the front bumper and I'm shocked........that it doesn't even have holes or drills or even anchors to attach the front plate. So I assume car manufacturers assume that people won't install front plates (?) hence sending cars with front bumpers without holes or anchors?

Unfortunately, I still couldn't get a straight answer
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Old 02-23-11, 10:37 PM
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^Because in many states its not required. Most of the states it's required in, it serves no other purpose than to identify a vehicle from the front or just another ticket machine. There is not other TRUE purpose of having them. I'm glad we don't have that ridiculous law here in FL.
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Most cars come with a front plate kit that gets bolted through the bumper plastic into holes underneath. It's ugly.
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^Because in many states its not required. Most of the states it's required in, it serves no other purpose than to identify a vehicle from the front or just another ticket machine. There is not other TRUE purpose of having them.
So, what's wrong with identifying a vehicle from the front? That is often a great help in security or law enforcement.....and law enforcement is a lot more than just writing tickets. There are situations where it helps police and witnesses solve (or prevent) major crimes.
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Originally Posted by IS-SV
Small savings simply:

1. Labor cost, prisoners are paid (yes well below minimum wage) by the hour, they are not salaried and not given any guarantee of full workweek from a pay standpoint.

2. Direct material costs saved (metal, paint, as well as electricity and other indirect costs to run machinery).

3. Postage savings (2 plates weigh more.than 1).
True, there would be some small savings here and there...but, by state-budget standards, probably not much. And most plates, nowadays, aren't shipped by mail...you simply get a small year-update-sticker each year that you stick on the upper-right-hand corner. Actual metal plates, in most areas, are usually provided at DMV or at new-car dealerships when you first buy your car.
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