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First Drive: 2011 Hyundai Equus

If the Genesis sedan was Hyundai's opening salvo to bring the pain to Lexus, the Equus is a set of leather-covered brass knuckles flying towards the jaws of Audi, BMW and Mercedes-Benz. It's a bold move by an automaker riding high on the intoxicating fumes of increased marketshare and boosted brand awareness. But here's one thing the Equus is not: Phaeton Part Deux.


Yes, Hyundai is punching above its weight and public perception. And yes, it's bringing a luxury sedan to the U.S. that's enjoyed considerable success in its home market. But that's where the similarities to the ill-received Phaeton end and where Volkswagen and Hyundai's strategies part ways. Hyundai recognizes the Equus is a niche product that isn't going to transform the brand. It's a sales, pricing and service experiment. So before we get to the good stuff, let's take a quick look at the automaker's tactics.

On the retail front, Hyundai only expects to sell between 2,000 and 3,000 Equus sedans each year – about the same amount VW projected when the Phaeton was introduced in 2004. When the big V-Dub was yanked from the U.S. market two years later, a little over 2,000 Phaetons were sold in total.

The Phaeton's failure in the U.S came down to a number of factors, but astronomical pricing (for a VW) sat at the top of that list. For those who need a refresher, the entry-level V8 Phaeton started at just under $65,000 in 2004, with the range-topping W12 nearly nudging into six digits with a $94,000 sticker.

While Hyundai hasn't announced pricing for the Equus (official MSRPs should be out in a week, with sales beginning November 1), the standard Equus Signature is likely to carry a price tag somewhere around $50,000, while the executive-friendly Ultimate will come in north of $60k. Granted, the Equus is not one of the most innovative luxury sedans of our lifetime, but then again, it doesn't have to be. All the Equus needs to do is offer a metric ton of amenities at an unrivaled price point and provide a phenomenal dealer experience in the process. And the best way to do the latter? Eliminate the dealer. Well, almost...


Equus buyers want to mix it up with Accent owners about as much as Phaeton people wanted to get chummy with their Golf-driving neighbors, so Hyundai's sales and service strategy is two-fold.

First, bring the car to prospective buyers' houses for test drives and Q&A sessions. Depending on state laws, you can sign on the dotted-line right from the comfort of your kitchen table. After that, Hyundai President and CEO John Krafcik says, "If you never want to go to the dealership again, you don't have to."

When oil-change time comes around, pull out the Hyundai-supplied Apple iPad that takes the place of the owner's manual (a dead tree edition is included as well), dial up the service app and you can schedule an appointment through the tubes of the Interwebs. A few days later, Hyundai techs whisk your Equus away to the dealership and leave in its place either a similarly spec'd sedan or a Genesis loaner. No need to rub elbows with the proletariat or drink the caffeinated swill at one of the 250 Equus-approved dealerships. Hyundai knows you're special. And you only drink Starbucks anyway.

Sure. But do you want one?


Let's forget about badge snobbery and the "ownership experience" for a moment. Do you like leather? Alcantara headliner? Seats that cool, heat and massage your conference call-weary shoulders? Are you tired of asking passengers to remove their lower limbs before squeezing into the back seat? Do you hunt for "value" like Brett Favre pleads for attention? Is "bang-for-the-buck" less a guiding philosophy and rather something you pursue with religious zeal? If you answered 'yes' to most of those questions, than the Equus is a winner.

To begin with, it's a sharp looking sedan from nearly every angle. While the rear might not be the most eye-catching, the view head-on and in profile exudes executive, even if it is of the Kkangpae variety. The chromed grille, piercing headlamps and sculpted fascia are all aggressive without being over the top, it's just a shame the front-view camera (on the Ultimate) protruding from the Equus' snout looks like a symmetrical black zit. The KDM hood ornament hasn't made the trek to the States (thanks, pedestrians), and if you're counting how many Hyundai logos adorn the Equus, you'll need a single digit for the lone "H" on the trunk.

Our favorite exterior elements are the pinched creases above the front and rear fenders, the latter of which stand out in the late-afternoon sunlight and divert your attention from the LS460-like exhaust tips, Maxima-style tail lamps and acres upon acres of chrome trim. While we understand the need for bling, the mirror finished 19-inch wheels are simply a step too far and Hyundai isn't offering an alternative at launch.


However, avoid sunburning your shins on the way inside, and the exterior's overwrought elements are replaced with a staid, restrained cabin that – on looks alone – comes across as both demure and palatial. Once again, the Koreans have taken a hard look at what luxury buyers are after (kudos to Lexus for the research) and replicated their desires with exacting precision.

At 109.3 cubic feet, the Equus is packing more interior volume than nearly every luxury flagship on the market, and comes equipped with all the amenities you'd expect (or deserve, depending on your point-of-view).

Real wood accents are inlaid into the dash, doors and steering wheel, the latter equipped with power tilt and telescoping. Both front chairs are heated and cooled, while the driver's seat benefits from 12-way adjustability and several massage settings.

Situated in front of the driver is your standard array of gauges, with a high-resolution 3.5-inch display showing gear selection, parking assist, trip information, stability management, lane departure warning system (lights, chimes and haptic feedback through the seatbelt) and the radar-assisted cruise control settings.


Nestled into the center stack is an eight-inch display (the Driver Information System or DIS) that controls Bluetooth phone operation, MP3 player, CD, AM/FM/XM audio, dual-zone and rear HVAC settings, parking assist (front and rear) and the vehicle dynamics system. The main input is a rotary **** aft of the shifter, surrounded by buttons for each accompanying system. The blend of dedicated controls is a welcome change from other all-in-one arrangements, even if the graphics – from the climate to GPS displays – are a generation or two behind what's being offered by Audi and BMW.

While fit and finish are easily on par with anything from luxury marques hailing from Japan or Germany, the overall premium sensation you get from a Lexus or Mercedes is notable by its absence. The materials just don't have the same refined and crafted sensation – something that Genesis buyers moving from another luxury marque have noticed in the past. The brushed aluminum trim adoring the center stack looks nice, but feels slightly flimsy. The double-stitched leather on the dash is nice to the touch, but doesn't give, hinting at a hard plastic tray underneath. The buttons on the steering wheel, center column and instrument panel lack the solidity we've come to expect in something costing over 50-large. In short, if Audi is a tactile "10", M-B a nine and BMW an eight, the Equus is somewhere between a six and seven – well above average, but more aspirational than class-leading.

But many of these gripes aren't an issue once you're out on the open road. So let's talk sound, or rather, the lack thereof.

With a coefficient of drag of 0.27 and acoustic-laminated glass fitted to the windshield and both the front and rear doors, the Equus is crypt-quiet both over and under the national speed limit. Shut off the equally impressive 608-watt, 17-speaker Lexicon stereo with 7.1 discrete sound, and you're running nuclear submarine-style – silent and deep – with only a growling intake note permeating the interior when the throttle pedal meets the carpet.


Like its rear-wheel-drive platform mate, the Equus comes equipped with Hyundai's 4.6-liter D-CVVT "Tau" V8 putting out 385 horsepower at 6,500 rpm and 333 pound-feet of torque at 3,500 rpm. The Tau is easily competitive with all the V8 offerings from established luxury marques, and even if you can't spring for premium fuel, the eight will happily chug away on 87 octane with only a slight decrease in performance.

With power transmitted to a six-speed automatic gearbox with a sport-shift system for tapping between the gears, our seat-of-the-pants estimate for a 0-60 mph time is in the mid-six-second range, and Hyundai figures fuel economy at 16 mpg in the city and 24 on the highway. During our time behind the wheel, we averaged far less (like damn-close to single digits) on account of Hyundai's drive route – easily the most technical we've experienced in years – through the hills and valleys that separate Silicon Valley from the Pacific. As always, these kind of loops can cut both ways. And it did.

V8 power is almost a necessity to motivate around 4,500 pounds of steel, leather and electronics, and the Tau V8 succeeds with aplomb. Power delivery is linear and smooth, with intake noise easily eclipsing any exhaust note out back. The transmission is equally up to the task, delivering crisp shifts and predictably – if slightly lazily – reaching for a lower gear when maximum thrust is called upon.


Driving demerits come in the form of a mushy middle pedal when braking, traveling a good third of the way down before the stoppers begin to scrub off speed. It takes a few moments to adapt, but afterward, pedal pressure remains constant, with only the slightest hint of fade after a particularly grueling stretch of switchbacks and 90-degree bends.

Far less adaptable is the steering, which lacks any kind of feedback on center and weights up unpredictably mid-bend. The electro-hydraulic power steering tweaks feel and boost based on vehicle speed and inputs, which works well around town, in parking lots and blasting down the freeway. But anyone looking for a sense of Sport to go with their Lux would do better to look elsewhere. However, the one faint light is the electonically-controlled air suspension that continuously adjusts damping force in 10 millisecond increments to suit the road and driving mode. Switching from Normal to Sport supposedly tweaks the damping, steering and transmission shift schedule, but we only noticed the latter's affect. Regardless, the system can raise the Equus 30 mm when traipsing across rough roads and automatically lowers the sedan by 15 mm when you crest 70 mph. At this price-point, it's an impressive system most notable for doing its job with transparency.


On the safety front, the Equus benefits from the normal smattering of high strength steel, along with nine airbags, electronic active front head restraints and its five-pronged approach to Electronic Stability Control (ESC) and Vehicle Stability Management (VSM). Yup, get ready for the acronyms.

Naturally, ABS and traction control are included, but the ESC and VSM systems also incorporates the electronic brake-force distribution (EBD), cornering brake control (CBC) and the brake assist system (BAS). They all do their jobs well, working together to create a safe, hoon-free experience. However, while being pitched into two high-speed bends on separate occasions we did experience a notable amount of oversteer, accompanied by the seatbelt tensioning system clutching our chest, then followed by a quick grab of the inside rear tire – as if the Equus' electronics were delayed in reminding us that "Hey, this is a big sedan. Watch it!" Also, sliding sideways in the rear VIP seat with the massagers at full blast should be a requirement on all test drives.

Which neatly brings us to the best part of the Equus experience: the Ultimate's rear thrones.


If you stick with the Signature spec Equus, you get the same lengthened wheelbase and a folding center console in back to accommodate five passengers. But forget about that. If you're going drop the kind of coin normally required for a luxury mid-sizer on a full-on flagship, you've got to go all the way, and the Ultimate trim is where it's at.

If you're fortunate enough to be driven, make your way to the right rear seat. In Ultimate trim, Hyundai calls it First Class, and the accommodations live up to the name.

To begin with, you've got the normal heated and cooled seat, along with a highly adjustable massage system. From there, you can also enjoy a power headrest that tilts inward to comfortably ensconce your cranium, a seat the reclines so deeply you'd swear your spine is going to hit the luggage, and an ottoman that rises up as a footrest. If you want all this luxury to be heaped on you at once, press a button on the permanent center console, complete with HVAC and infotainment controls, and the right front seat moves forward a foot and tilts to accommodate your expansive dimensions. An eight-inch LCD display rises from behind the front passenger's center armrest, and yes, that's a fridge to your left. You can almost hear the tween screams about who gets the royal throne on road trips.

And they'd better be tweens.


As our five-foot, 10-inch frame found while spending the better part of an hour in the right-rear seat, while it's luxurious, there's not too much space to stretch out. Scuff marks from our shoes coated the backing of the front seat, making us momentarily question Hyundai's decision not to import the longer-wheelbase version available in Korea. The execs we talked to said it looks odd and disproportionate, but if we really wanted to get comfortable (or productive), those extra nine inches would be a necessity.

But tactile and driving compromises aside, the level of luxury for the price is completely unmatched. Actually, that's an understatement. It's simply unheard of. There's absolutely nothing in the new car market that matches the Equus on the amenities front for a similar price-point. Add in the (admittedly, yet-to-be-tested) ownership and service experience, and you've just coated a very compelling cake in Valrohna ganache. Then sprinkled some gold leaf for effect. The Equus isn't just the ultimate Hyundai – it's the ultimate four-wheeled value proposition. And while taking that tack might have failed for Volkswagen, in this day and this age, something with this level of luxury without the weight of a traditional luxury badge could be an asset. Hyundai's about to find out, and its dedication to experimentation can only make the automotive world the wiser.

Gallery:
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Source:
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/09/07/2...iew-road-test/

GSteg

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4500 lbs

I love the rear passenger seating area though. To me, it's a car that you don't want to drive, but rather be driven by someone else.

RXSF

that front camera is hideous and at the end of the day, you pay for what you get.

Like the Genesis, it looks great on paper, but not so when you see it beneath the "luxury" touches. And also with the Genesis, for some reason, even though the engine output may look good on paper, it doesnt translate to an equally impressive 0-60 time.

but you got to give to to hyundai. Its a lot of value. I would like to speak to mr toyoda about why the RX doesnt get double stitched seats.

rdgdawg

I'd still take the Genesis over this

IS350jet

Me too. I love the Genesis. So much, so, that I'm seriously considering buying one.

AlexusAnja

$55-60K is a big bomb and definitely a Phantom Menace part Deux, but probably not on such a grand scale. $90K for a VW was just ludicrous, while $60K for a Hyundai is just crazy.

I too would prefer the Genesis over this, as a total package thing (price inclusive) like Dawg said.

Fulorian

A fully loaded V8 Genesis is $43-$44,000. A fully-loaded non-limo style Equus starts at about $50,000. Around 40% of Genesis sold are fully loaded V8s. Why would it be that much of an upward move for people to move to an Equus?

And no, you don't always 'get what you pay for'. Not when a company is trying to build a brand and is willing to take a significantly reduced premium (or selling at cost), to bring value shoppers in against products that are priced as much on their marketing budget, expense of the opulent dealerships, and large profit margins (IE, all the Germans). Amazing how many of you forget that little product rollout in 1989. What was that car again? That was being sold ridiculously cheap, and despite overwhelmingly positive press, the existing marque's all said that it was too cheap, and that you 'get what you pay for'. Oh right, LS400.

Brand isn't everything. Don't forget, Mercedes makes A-class cars for third world countries. They make budget boxes like any other company - they just pretend not to, to defend their snooty image in the U.S.

AlexusAnja

(1) I would think the Genesis buyers are Camry/Accord family sedan buyers, not luxury buyers, who have splurged and gone up about $10K and tightened their belts to get the best "family sedan" for the money. For $35K, I'd take a V6 Genesis over the generic Camry/Accord any day.

To as that family to then up another 40%, not happening, they've already over leveraged on the Genesis already and it fits the family purpose much better than the Equus. That is why you won't see buyers for the Equus. Plus, your logic of not being much of any upward move to jump to Equus is the perennial buyers flaw of "hey, it's only $$$ more, we can afford it."

Why would there ever be a IS or ES class? For a little more, you can get a GS... and then for yet a little more, you can get a LS. Not everyone's pockets are bottomless, there is a cap for buyers and I think the cap on a Hyundai is the Genesis.

(2) It was dumping then, it's dumping now... the Japanese and Koreans dumped and are dumping vehicles on our shore at a loss so they can get a food into the market. Anything wrong? No, but is it good competitive business, no. It worked for Lexus, it won't work for Hyundai. Toyota didn't just try to throw a Toyota on our lap and say "hey, this is a great deal for $40K for this LS400." They went out and marketed and created a whole new network for the Lexus brand. Something Hyundai is not doing, but will need to do. So with your point #1, they try to enhance the Hyundai name, to what end? Will they eventually make Hyundai a luxury brand and have the Equus, Genesis, Sonata, and Veracruz as their luxury vehicles and have KIA take over the economy ranks?

(3) Yes, MB makes taxis for almost 75% of the middle east countries with their A-vehicles, but so does Toyota in Asia. You pointed to it, it's all about marketing and market sectors. Hyundai started in U.S. as an econo box company, until the "80's generation" starts dying off and people forget the roots of Hyundai, the idea of Hyundai being a luxury make will not happen. Also, most luxury (big luxury, LS, 7, S series) buyers are probably average age 50+ years old? They will remember Hyundai quite well for what they were... and brand to a luxury buyer is EVERYTHING. No one is going to shell out $60K for a Hyundai luxury and the younger crowd that might not care about Hyundai being cheap before are looking for IS, 3, and C class vehicles, not Hyundai's anyway.

LexFather

Sorry this is not like the LS and not like 1989.

The Equus looks like a great value but it won't send the Japanese or Germans scrambling to redo their vehicles. It's not even going to be sold in dealerships.

The LS made the Germans run to the drawing boards a it wasn't just cheaper but seen as the SUPERIOR vehicle. Then it included unheard of levels of customer service and quality at the time.

Lexus sold I believe 35,000 LS 400s in 6 months.

Hyundais has a 2-3,000 sales goal for the Equus.

It is an apples to oranges comparison.

baddis es

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personally, i think Hyundai will meet every one of the sales with the Equus. majority of it’s prospected owners are from the same boat as the LS owners …I don’t see a reason why the Equus can’t take away even half to 2/3 of it’s sales from Lexus owner’s alone.

when you look at the many LS owners, they aren’t the die-hard enthusiasts that are on the forums and I can give a good guess that majority don’t even know CL exists. many on the board ask for sport-oriented LS sedans to compete with the S-class and 7er. take a look at the sales figures tho, where does the LS-sport find it’s worth in terms of sales? very small percentage I would believe. it’s a great option for those ENTHUSIASTS, but not for the everyday purchase.

the Equus prospects know Lexus offers a great deal compared to MB and BMW, and the dealer is tier one when it comes to service. until recently, the LS was the bargain in the big luxury sedan market. but being that the LS has moved up and aligned itself directly with the 7er and S-class, where they are being more innovators and class-leading than undercutting the competition, the Equus now will fill this genre.

the owner’s experience is the selling point, not to mention the price. I’m sure when they provide the details of this to the consumer…it’ll have them signing on the dotted line.

I do disagree with people saying that the Equus poses no threat. it’s a baby step for them, and if Lexus is simply overlooking their presence, you can expect those baby-steps to turn into leaps sooner or later.

another thing is why must Hyundai follow the steps Lexus took to introducing themselves, is that the only way it should have been done? sure it’s a great formula for success, but Hyundai has done well by initially copying the market to gain grounds to now introducing great vehicles. the numbers don’t lie. so far, the Sonata is a BIG hit and putting sizeable dents in Accord and Camry sales. the Genesis sedan is doing well and is hardly the Camry owners “upgrading”, it’s more of an option for Avalon/ES/GS owners now. not to many Camry’s are sold over the 30k mark…so I highly doubt that Camry owners are cross-shopping these and upgrading/dumping the additional 10-15k for the Genesis

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rdgdawg

That sounds rather menacing!!!

bitkahuna

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you're right, it's not. it's better. or rather, it's more RELEVANT to today.

i don't care if dealers give full body massages to customers, i'd guess 99% of people HATE going to a car dealer, EVER, or even if it's 'nice' they can think of a billion places they'd rather be, like their dentist or proctologist.

the idea of cutting out the need to go to the dealer at all is GENIUS.
the fact that hyundai has had time to work out some kinks in their home market first is a win for u.s. customers.

the LS was superior in terms of refinement and build quality. it was 'different' in terms of features - some better, some lacking. mb/bmw had a MAJOR wake up call and it took YEARS for them to recover their footing. that situation is very different now of course so trying to completely 'surprise' them is basically impossible.

a modest goal (that still might not be met) is reasonable. no one knows how well this vehicle will do, but everyone knows they're launching it into one of the crappiest economies ever, plus when congress dumps the bush tax cuts on at least the highest earners and probably the middle class too, it's going to make the new luxury car market even worse. i suspect we're moving to a time when the VAST majority of higher end luxury vehicles will be leased though...

regardless, 2010 is a vastly different landscape than 1989. you're right... apples to oranges.

LexBob2

IMO, there is no doubt that Equus is a good value and offers a lot for the money. It will find some buyers (who knows how many) and will find its niche in the market.

Like the Genesis and most other new cars, it's not really revolutionary but the competition will be good for consumers. In a few months it will be part of the automotive landscape and next newest things will be out there.

RXSF

I cant wait for the Lexus bashing hyundai ads to come out in November lol