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Old May 1, 2010 | 07:44 AM
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I know its a illustration/render but for the love of god, it better not turn out that way
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Old May 1, 2010 | 07:46 AM
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It honestly looks like a toy. Doesn't TATA have any creative people?
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Originally Posted by JessePS
It honestly looks like a toy. Doesn't TATA have any creative people?
IMO, except for the D-Pillars, it resembles the Toyota FJ Cruiser.

The Defender is not supposed to be a big, plush, refined vehicle like the Discovery or Range Rovers. It is Land Rover's fun-in-the-boonies vehicle, with comparably few frills, more or less comparable to a larger, more sophisticated Jeep Wrangler.

In fact, of all the Land Rover products today, the Defender is the one most closely in tune with the original 1948 Land Rover, which was a stark, no-frills machine done on a (you-guessed it) American Jeep platform, with a British engine and body panels. The plush, luxury Range Rovers we know today did not start until 1970.




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Old May 1, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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Keep the Defender the same way please. I love Defenders.
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Old May 1, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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i thought they are scrapping the whole defender thing all together

but judging from the abomination in the pic, it is pretty much the end of the defender legacy...
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Old May 1, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
IMO, except for the D-Pillars, it resembles the Toyota FJ Cruiser.

The Defender is not supposed to be a big, plush, refined vehicle like the Discovery or Range Rovers. It is Land Rover's fun-in-the-boonies vehicle, with comparably few frills, more or less comparable to a larger, more sophisticated Jeep Wrangler.
100% agreed!!!!
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Old May 1, 2010 | 01:52 PM
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100% agreed!!!!
We used to get the Defender in the American market, but it was taken out some years ago. The LR3, for a while, more or less took its place, and now, instead, we get the LR2, which, like the older LR3, is unibody. While still off-road-capable, the LR2 is more comfortable and plush, and not nearly as hard-core as the Defender. The LR2 is known as the Freelander2, and the larger LR4 the Discovery4 in other, non-U.S. markets....Land Rover seems to play a name game here in America. Why the Defender is no longer offered here in America beats me.....unless it is just too much competition from Jeeps, Suzuki Vitaras, The FJ Cruiser, and the Nissan XTerra.

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Originally Posted by JessePS
It honestly looks like a toy. Doesn't TATA have any creative people?
That thing looks creative to me ... note that creative doesn't equate to good, yea?
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It's like a Land Rover, FJ Cruiser, Jeep and Honda Element had a massive four way love child
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I dont understand Land Rover, or perhaps it is the buyer I don't understand. Land Rover was a company that made vehicles that could go anywhere. Then they started making these vehicles with comfortable seats, soft rides, all of the goodies. Eventually, customers complain that the vehicles aren't as a capable as they once were. LR makes some modifications. Then, customers complain that the vehicles are lacking in comfort. Perhaps what the customer is actually looking for is a Lazy-Boy and the Nat. Geo. channel.
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Originally Posted by SLegacy99
I dont understand Land Rover, or perhaps it is the buyer I don't understand. Land Rover was a company that made vehicles that could go anywhere. Then they started making these vehicles with comfortable seats, soft rides, all of the goodies. Eventually, customers complain that the vehicles aren't as a capable as they once were. LR makes some modifications. Then, customers complain that the vehicles are lacking in comfort. Perhaps what the customer is actually looking for is a Lazy-Boy and the Nat. Geo. channel.

There is nothing in the rule book that says that an SUV can't be both plush/comfortable and an off-road mountain goat at the same time. The Range Rover, Toyota Land Cruiser, Lexus LX470, VW Touraeg, and Mercedes Gelenadewagen all prove that. Of course, you can't do that cheaply.....these are all expensive vehicles.
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Originally Posted by JessePS
It honestly looks like a toy. Doesn't TATA have any creative people?
You do realize that these are available at Walmart and Target, right?

What I hate about this rig is that it's seat are plastic, and it's a bit cramped inside. And for some odd reason, when I turn on the radio... all that comes on is Buster Poindexter. Make sure you have the Come-back action feature off, or once you stop to fuel the mammoth SUV, it will start driving in reverse and end up right back in your driveway.


Reality though, it's fugly, doesn't do the Defender 90 any Justice.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Why the Defender is no longer offered here in America beats me.....unless it is just too much competition from Jeeps, Suzuki Vitaras, The FJ Cruiser, and the Nissan XTerra.
The Land Rover Defender's being pulled from the U.S. and Canada had nothing to do with competing products. Rather, it was the fact that, in 1998, all vehicles were required to feature front airbags (driver & passenger) and meet more stringent side door impact requirements. Land Rover decided that the small numbers of vehicles sold in North America in relation to their global sales didn't make these alterations economically viable.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 10:46 AM
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The Defender should not change!
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Old May 3, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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The Defender should not change!
IMHO, stick a modern diesel in this bastard and keep it that way

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