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Just goes to show how USELESS the UAW is... The auto industry will never recover with the UAW calling the shots.

The G Man

I am not a big supporter of unions, but I blame both the managment and the laborer in this case. If managment treats the labor force right in the 1st place, there would be no need for a union.
The labor force should have more loyality to their employer, they should take pride in efficency and low cost.
It is no wonder that American are losing their manufacturering based jobs. Other countries can make the same product cheaper and better. All these Uinions will not help, all they will do is add cost to the manufacturers.

IS-SV

Outcome as expected.

Blackraven

Well, I for one don't feel sorry these savages. They are been spoon-fed way too much (and thus they are too spoiled considering that they are just unskilled workers who get paid way beyond what is due to them). As a result, company suffers and thus lost productivity especially when worker strikers occur.

Even worse, is the way that these savages act in response.

In summary, the culprits are unions and all this socialist bullcrap. And yup, I guess Winston Churchill got it right on this one:

“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

Socialism and labor unions may work for Europe and people there are happy about it..........but in America, it is not wanted (hence apprehension against the Obama Healthcare plan).

P.S.
That's why if ever I run a business when I grow up, I can be sure that I would keep those things out of my business.

Socialism and labor unions are definitely not welcome in my backyard......

EDIT:
Take a look at the comments.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...ommentslistpos

The comments are hilarous and yet are so true:
"Show this to Toyota execs in Japan and you'd see as to why they'd want to shut this plant down ASAP."
"I would never want to buy a car made by these fat slob UAW workers"
"You begin to wonder why factories operated by UAW scumbags sink whereas NON-UNION factories like those in the South prosper like that Nissan factory in Tennessee"
"Union sucks, they add to the demise of the Amercian auto industry, they always have a sense of entitlement, do you want to buy a car made by these people?"
"With the way these thugs act out, it's more than enough reason to look for another vehicle"
"i would not want these whiners working for me when they finally walk out of nummi. after being so damn spoiled for too long i know they are not going to cope well with reality. there is no union for living in reality."
"UNIONS ARE A TRAGEDY"

Nuff said

The G Man

Unions have its place, maybe not in a competitive area such as automotive manufacturering. Without Unions, employers can pay these auto workers what ever they want. A good example is the automotive work force in Korea. Where there is a hand full of highly skill workers who earn decent wages and the rest are temp workers making $3 an hour, forced overtime and are subject to lay off all the time when business is slow.
Unions are there to keep the employers from abusing the system, but in the UAW's case, the Union is also abusing the system, so they are both to blame.

SecPole14

Wow. Thugs, bandits, and criminals. Yup, another day at the UAW local hall.

The UAW are a joke. Their numbers have been dwindling in recent years, and they really carry very little weight nationally anymore.

The world has moved on. These bottom-feeders haven't.

ABC ran a news story last night about the UAW people in Chicago who were happy about Ford adding more production there. Fine.

Except they had been out of work for 15 MONTHS!

I know the economy sucks, but that's almost enough time to go back and get an associates degree and retrain for a new career field!

These people have a huge sense of entitlement, and they can choke on it in my opinion. If they choose (and they DO CHOOSE) to subscribe to the UAW's policies of ignorance and arrogance, I don't feel sorry for them.

No one is worth $70/hour wage-benefits package for bolting wheels onto a Corolla. They had a fun ride while it lasted, now it's time for them to join the real world.

I too would have real trouble purchasing a North American union-assembled vehicle because of things like this. Why would I want to support people like that?

For most intents and purposes, the US and Canadian auto industries are one and the same...the CAW aren't much better than the UAW.

UAW's/CAW's relationship with the car companies and government is totally incestuous. They aren't looking after their members' best interest like they claim to; it's pathetically hilarious.

Thumbs-down all-around!

I8ABMR

I have friends who are doctors, engineers , and lawyers who don't make $78/hr. That is so amazing considering they are uneducated blue collar workers who probably didn't go much further than high school. With the new socioeconomic trends we are seeing this era is over. There is no more just leaving high school to "work hard because college isn't for everyone". You need an education to make money like that. They do a brainless job like installing carpets , installing doors, etc and yet they want to make what people make out of school with an MBA. If you do a job that you can be be trained to do in a matter of a couple of days.....you need to wake up. These guys have been over paid and protected for 20 years at least

encore888

It's a sad situation on all sides. However, the company will benefit from the cost savings, whereas the community there will likely suffer depression, increased crime, etc. just like other Rust Belt factory towns, I hope there will be an eventual recovery of some sort.

nthach

Fremont is planning to get the A's to move from Oakland to a new stadium on the soon to be ex-NUMMI lot. They already have MLB's blessing - or will be.

madoka

You may want to tell the 44,000 union workers that work for Hyundai that in Korea car unions don't exist.

LIMS407

it just sad to see that many workers out of the job....time is gettin tough by day dor these folks and many people around world now

dunnojack

WTF? $78 an hour? how many of those workers make this kind of money?

"GTFO and STF Up MF". boycott these fools. I am not going to help support that kind of salary by buying a UAW car.

at 2000 hours a year, they are grossing 6 figures for factory work.

Blackraven

Haha there's a tons of phrases to describe UAW:
U
Ain't
Working



"Tomarrow the skinny Socialist will tell you how much work HE has done to create GOOD PAYING JOBS for you.After the clapping dies down you will see the FOOL said NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE."

Hehe socialism FTL

We are UAW: "Bringing the American auto production industry to its demise, one factory at a time"

In order to sustain American auto production business, remove labor unions and any load of socialist bull**** out of the system. Otherwise face the consequences (like having auto jobs moved to other countries).

Joeb427

iTrader: (1)

They get about $28 per hour pay.
The rest is benefits.
A bit high but not crazy.



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4630103.shtml

mmarshall

UAW representatives were standing outside the front doors of the D.C. Auto Show yesterday, Handing out brochures on the subject. I got into a discussion with one of them on several issues about Toyota's recent problems, the declining quality of some of their products, and the quality of the NUMMI plant compared to other plants. He was rather narrow-minded on the subject until I pointed out the superiority of some recent Ford products (including the F-150) over their Toyota rivals, which he conceded.

On the other hand, Ford just announced, yesterday, that they were hiring again for a new plant shift, starting at $14 an hour....essentially non-union wages. While I agree that, in some cases, UAW people were formerly overpaid for their (and others weren't), how can you expect to earn a living, support a family pay all your bills, and (VERY important) save up for retirement at $14 an hour? Companies, as well as unions, have to show some flexibility here.