Spy Shots: Possible production version of Lexus LF-Ch
01-19-10, 01:02 PM
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The glass is half empty for some. 
The car is still covered up...but despite that fact, I like this new car.
The car is still covered up...but despite that fact, I like this new car.
01-19-10, 01:18 PM
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You got that right, there is huge difference between the markets in the US and global markets. For example, Globally, Audi sells more cars than Lexus. I dont think Audi is too popular in AZ, they are much more popular in the north since most Audi have AWD.
01-19-10, 01:41 PM
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Audi's are more popular up north (as in northeast US) than further south, but their still not that popular up here. I see more ugly Acuras driving around than new Audis. It's just like how Volvo is more popular up here, but they are still overall not a very popular brand.
01-19-10, 04:34 PM
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I agree with the naysayers that the rear end has been dumbed down from the concept far too much to be interesting at all anymore. It's now just another average-looking hatch, from the rear at least. Our last hope is in the front. 
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01-19-10, 06:09 PM
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*crosses fingers* please be a 2-door hatch!!!
I wonder if it will get the F treatment because of the styling.
What would they call it though? CS***h (Compact Sedan) or CC***h (Compact Coupe) of CH***h (Compact Hatch) or C***h (Compact)
If its going up against an A3/S3/RS3... which varies from 158 hp to 335 hp. It be interesting to see it with like 247 hp (combined petrol + electric), which would make it as powerful as the Audi A3 3.2FSI, which isn't available in N.A. Only one in N.A is the 2.0 TFSI (I4 200 hp) + S-tronic + Quattro which is about $36k CDN. I bet the LF-Ch probably would use like the HS250h engine or Camry Hybrid engine, which are both I4 and have hybrid power trains, but put out 187 hp which is a little short of the A3 2.0 TFSI. Just imagine if they put in the 3.5L from the RX, which would be around the 247 hp mark, but it probably weigh way to much. They could always try and fit in a 2.5L from the IS and with that put the electric motor and tad-dah the magical 247
So either way if the LF-Ch hits production its should be like $33k CDN (starting), which would be in the same price range as an IS RWD. Only time will tell. As long as the car doesn't go over $42k CDN (w/options) I'll be very happy.
OT: As for the people talking about the HS250h, only problem I have with that car is the poor fuel economy. The Toyota Sai pretty much the same car but gets 10 mpg more then the HS.
Plus were only 2 months away from Geneva hehe
I wonder if it will get the F treatment because of the styling.
What would they call it though? CS***h (Compact Sedan) or CC***h (Compact Coupe) of CH***h (Compact Hatch) or C***h (Compact)
If its going up against an A3/S3/RS3... which varies from 158 hp to 335 hp. It be interesting to see it with like 247 hp (combined petrol + electric), which would make it as powerful as the Audi A3 3.2FSI, which isn't available in N.A. Only one in N.A is the 2.0 TFSI (I4 200 hp) + S-tronic + Quattro which is about $36k CDN. I bet the LF-Ch probably would use like the HS250h engine or Camry Hybrid engine, which are both I4 and have hybrid power trains, but put out 187 hp which is a little short of the A3 2.0 TFSI. Just imagine if they put in the 3.5L from the RX, which would be around the 247 hp mark, but it probably weigh way to much. They could always try and fit in a 2.5L from the IS and with that put the electric motor and tad-dah the magical 247
So either way if the LF-Ch hits production its should be like $33k CDN (starting), which would be in the same price range as an IS RWD. Only time will tell. As long as the car doesn't go over $42k CDN (w/options) I'll be very happy.
OT: As for the people talking about the HS250h, only problem I have with that car is the poor fuel economy. The Toyota Sai pretty much the same car but gets 10 mpg more then the HS.
Plus were only 2 months away from Geneva hehe
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01-19-10, 06:39 PM
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*crosses fingers* please be a 2-door hatch!!!
I wonder if it will get the F treatment because of the styling.
What would they call it though? CS***h (Compact Sedan) or CC***h (Compact Coupe) of CH***h (Compact Hatch) or C***h (Compact)
If its going up against an A3/S3/RS3... which varies from 158 hp to 335 hp. It be interesting to see it with like 247 hp (combined petrol + electric), which would make it as powerful as the Audi A3 3.2FSI, which isn't available in N.A. Only one in N.A is the 2.0 TFSI (I4 200 hp) + S-tronic + Quattro which is about $36k CDN. I bet the LF-Ch probably would use like the HS250h engine or Camry Hybrid engine, which are both I4 and have hybrid power trains, but put out 187 hp which is a little short of the A3 2.0 TFSI. Just imagine if they put in the 3.5L from the RX, which would be around the 247 hp mark, but it probably weigh way to much. They could always try and fit in a 2.5L from the IS and with that put the electric motor and tad-dah the magical 247
So either way if the LF-Ch hits production its should be like $33k CDN (starting), which would be in the same price range as an IS RWD. Only time will tell. As long as the car doesn't go over $42k CDN (w/options) I'll be very happy.
OT: As for the people talking about the HS250h, only problem I have with that car is the poor fuel economy. The Toyota Sai pretty much the same car but gets 10 mpg more then the HS.
Plus were only 2 months away from Geneva hehe
I wonder if it will get the F treatment because of the styling.
What would they call it though? CS***h (Compact Sedan) or CC***h (Compact Coupe) of CH***h (Compact Hatch) or C***h (Compact)
If its going up against an A3/S3/RS3... which varies from 158 hp to 335 hp. It be interesting to see it with like 247 hp (combined petrol + electric), which would make it as powerful as the Audi A3 3.2FSI, which isn't available in N.A. Only one in N.A is the 2.0 TFSI (I4 200 hp) + S-tronic + Quattro which is about $36k CDN. I bet the LF-Ch probably would use like the HS250h engine or Camry Hybrid engine, which are both I4 and have hybrid power trains, but put out 187 hp which is a little short of the A3 2.0 TFSI. Just imagine if they put in the 3.5L from the RX, which would be around the 247 hp mark, but it probably weigh way to much. They could always try and fit in a 2.5L from the IS and with that put the electric motor and tad-dah the magical 247
So either way if the LF-Ch hits production its should be like $33k CDN (starting), which would be in the same price range as an IS RWD. Only time will tell. As long as the car doesn't go over $42k CDN (w/options) I'll be very happy.
OT: As for the people talking about the HS250h, only problem I have with that car is the poor fuel economy. The Toyota Sai pretty much the same car but gets 10 mpg more then the HS.
Plus were only 2 months away from Geneva hehe
01-19-10, 06:41 PM
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Looks relatively close to the concept, but not as close as I would have liked. The concept tails were way better, and I really liked that sharp crease that extended from the tail light down to the bottom of the bumper. It looks like the production car will only have that crease in the bumper.
None the less...let's see what the rest of it looks like before judging too harshly.
None the less...let's see what the rest of it looks like before judging too harshly.
01-19-10, 06:43 PM
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Rumored model variants for the LF-Ch according my.IS forums are a "CT" (compact Tourer) 200h, CT 300h, and CT 400h. CT200h will have the Prius engine good for 140hp (about the same as the diesel A3), the CT300h will have a new powerplant either the new 2.5L or the 2.7L with an electric motor it should be good for a total output of 200-220hp (same as the TFSI A3), and then the flagship CT400h will have the RXh powerplant.
Don't get me wrong, a 300hp hybrid V6 would be a cool option but I definitely won't be holding my breath.
01-19-10, 06:49 PM
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Looks relatively close to the concept, but not as close as I would have liked. The concept tails were way better, and I really liked that sharp crease that extended from the tail light down to the bottom of the bumper. It looks like the production car will only have that crease in the bumper.
None the less...let's see what the rest of it looks like before judging too harshly.
None the less...let's see what the rest of it looks like before judging too harshly.
Very true, but according to my.IS Toyota has filed patents for a CT400h, not sure what that means, or if a V6 in this thing will be available at launch, or if it will be available at all. Honestly we're still not even sure if this hatch will make it to North America...