Originally Posted by Och
(Post 4766317)
And that my friend is just not true. I would know, I grew up in Russia. All Russian cars were poorly built and ran like crap from the factory, and broke down constantly. Pretty much every car owner there had to be learn to fix them, and spend a lot of their free time fixing their cars. To make matters worse, parts were expensive and not readily available, so people did get creative. On the plus side, the cars were basic and simple so they were easier to work on.
Obviously I cannot speak for Russian cars in Russia, but the general perception is that they were reliable and solid.
Originally Posted by Och
(Post 4766317)
They might be soldering on, but in what shape? Again, these cars are very simple and have no modern features, so its relatively easy to keep them going, even if they are squeaking, rusting apart, coughing, chocking and smoking.
Simple and and basic engineering are they key to why these cars have soldiered on so long. Sure, the body is often rusted but the chassis and mechanical components are working fine. Do-it-yourself work is also possible on these older cars. For a modern car to properly function you don't need a mechanic but a computer technician... |
Originally Posted by DustinV
(Post 4766341)
That's not what I heard and read. Russian cars were applauded for their reliability and solidity. Many Russian cars from the Soviet era were even exported to Western Europe and the UK - and this is where the good reports about reliability come from.
Obviously I cannot speak for Russian cars in Russia, but the general perception is that they were reliable and solid.
Originally Posted by DustinV
(Post 4766341)
I guarantee you, a modern car from any brand (even Toyota and Lexus) won't last as long out there. The complexities of modern cars make this impossible.
Simple and and basic engineering are they key to why these cars have soldiered on so long. Sure, the body is often rusted but the chassis and mechanical components are working fine. Do-it-yourself work is also possible on these older cars. For a modern car to properly function you don't need a mechanic but a computer technician... To put things in perspective, I know a Russian guy who completely rebuilt the engine in his Russian truck back in the 80ies, down to welding together the crankshaft that broke in half. Yet, when he saw me replacing the timing belt in my LS, he said he would never attempt to do it himself because of how complicated it looked. |
Originally Posted by DustinV
(Post 4766341)
Sure, the body is often rusted but the chassis and mechanical components are working fine.
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Originally Posted by Och
(Post 4766364)
Trust me on this one, reliable they were not. They also didnt get exported much beyond the eastern Europe, they simply wouldnt pass emissions in civilized countries. Even with their tiny engines they produced clouds of smoke from the exaust.
Trabants, Wartburgs and Barkas from Eastern Germany are apparently also very reliable cars and highly sought-after collectibles here by real car enthusiasts. The Wartburg sedans in particular have a very good durability reputation it seems. |
Originally Posted by DustinV
(Post 4766374)
These cars were sold in the United Kingdom and Western Europe. As far as I know the polluting engines were removed and replaced with either Renault, Peugeot or Fiat engines and thus the cars were deemed satisfactory for Western Europe.
Originally Posted by DustinV
(Post 4766374)
Trabants, Wartburgs and Barkas from Eastern Germany are apparently also very reliable cars and highly sought-after collectibles here by real car enthusiasts. The Wartburg sedans in particular have a very good durability reputation it seems.
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woah!!! I love it!
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Originally Posted by bad co
(Post 4766190)
I hope this is good, because the last good think that came out of russia is this.
http://files.coloribus.com/files/pae...ew_600_838.jpg |
uh those could be real thrusters...they are russian after all ;)
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Originally Posted by bad co
(Post 4766190)
I hope this is good, because the last good think that came out of russia is this.
http://files.coloribus.com/files/pae...ew_600_838.jpg http://rawsport.files.wordpress.com/...-sharapova.jpg i dunno who would buy that super car, but its nice that there's more selection now these days. |
Originally Posted by Och
(Post 4766317)
And that my friend is just not true. I would know, I grew up in Russia. All Russian cars were poorly built and ran like crap from the factory, and broke down constantly. Pretty much every car owner there had to be learn to fix them, and spend a lot of their free time fixing their cars. To make matters worse, parts were expensive and not readily available, so people did get creative. On the plus side, the cars were basic and simple so they were easier to work on.
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Its different!
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What Jeremy forgot to mention is the good ol Maluch ;p
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...6/Fiat126p.jpg |
Those Marussia cars look as manly and virile as comrade Putin himself!! :p
But joking aside, I love the looks of next year's concept. I'll take mine in satin black, please! |
will it force communism on me? :)
nice looking car .. looks like an enzo or something in the front though. the back makes it looks like it guzzles gas like crazy ! |
looks like a sleeker but more exaggerated lamborghini
in mother russia, you dont drive the car the car drives you |
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