Official Infiniti Q70 (M37/56) thread
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Basically Infiniti added a diesel version:
M56
M37
M35h
M22d
Lexus had the IS 220d and IS 200d and didn't really sell really well and replaced it with the IS 300h which must be doing better. Just wish Lexus would bring the IS 300h to the United States so we get a much better selection from the IS line.
Lexus please bring the IS 300h to the U.S.!
M56
M37
M35h
M22d
Lexus had the IS 220d and IS 200d and didn't really sell really well and replaced it with the IS 300h which must be doing better. Just wish Lexus would bring the IS 300h to the United States so we get a much better selection from the IS line.
Lexus please bring the IS 300h to the U.S.!
Last edited by Trexus; Dec 22, 2014 at 05:55 PM.
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So the M30d (with its V9X six-cylinder Diesel Engine) is now phased-out in Europe..........and replaced with a four banger diesel?
That is one step back.....
Seriously, premium car buyers in Europe really need to try harder imho. If you can't afford a bigger engine, then you should either find more ways to earn more money so you can afford it OR go into a lower class/category of vehicle.
IMHO, I think one main reason why the IS Diesel didn't do so well is because of the manual stick shift that was paired with it.
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It was subpar at best. The synchros were terrible, it led to 5th injector and EGR problems with the Diesel units, gearing is not optimal, etc. etc.
In fact, in Lexus owners forum in the United Kingdom, all of the members advised to not bother with the IS Diesel or any IS with a manual stick shift.
They recommended that you get an IS250 with automatic instead.
Truth be told, Lexus is not really a specialist when it comes to stick shifts. Hence, in the 3IS and so on, there is no manual anymore...........and I doubt that they have intentions to release one in the future.
That is one step back.....
Seriously, premium car buyers in Europe really need to try harder imho. If you can't afford a bigger engine, then you should either find more ways to earn more money so you can afford it OR go into a lower class/category of vehicle.
Lexus had the IS 220d and IS 200d and didn't really sell really well and replaced it with the IS 300h which must be doing better.
It was subpar at best. The synchros were terrible, it led to 5th injector and EGR problems with the Diesel units, gearing is not optimal, etc. etc.
In fact, in Lexus owners forum in the United Kingdom, all of the members advised to not bother with the IS Diesel or any IS with a manual stick shift.
They recommended that you get an IS250 with automatic instead.
Truth be told, Lexus is not really a specialist when it comes to stick shifts. Hence, in the 3IS and so on, there is no manual anymore...........and I doubt that they have intentions to release one in the future.
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So the M30d (with its V9X six-cylinder Diesel Engine) is now phased-out in Europe..........and replaced with a four banger diesel?
That is one step back.....
Seriously, premium car buyers in Europe really need to try harder imho. If you can't afford a bigger engine, then you should either find more ways to earn more money so you can afford it OR go into a lower class/category of vehicle.
IMHO, I think one main reason why the IS Diesel didn't do so well is because of the manual stick shift that was paired with it.
It was subpar at best. The synchros were terrible, it led to 5th injector and EGR problems with the Diesel units, gearing is not optimal, etc. etc.
In fact, in Lexus owners forum in the United Kingdom, all of the members advised to not bother with the IS Diesel or any IS with a manual stick shift.
They recommended that you get an IS250 with automatic instead.
Truth be told, Lexus is not really a specialist when it comes to stick shifts. Hence, in the 3IS and so on, there is no manual anymore...........and I doubt that they have intentions to release one in the future.
That is one step back.....
Seriously, premium car buyers in Europe really need to try harder imho. If you can't afford a bigger engine, then you should either find more ways to earn more money so you can afford it OR go into a lower class/category of vehicle.
IMHO, I think one main reason why the IS Diesel didn't do so well is because of the manual stick shift that was paired with it.
It was subpar at best. The synchros were terrible, it led to 5th injector and EGR problems with the Diesel units, gearing is not optimal, etc. etc.
In fact, in Lexus owners forum in the United Kingdom, all of the members advised to not bother with the IS Diesel or any IS with a manual stick shift.
They recommended that you get an IS250 with automatic instead.
Truth be told, Lexus is not really a specialist when it comes to stick shifts. Hence, in the 3IS and so on, there is no manual anymore...........and I doubt that they have intentions to release one in the future.
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An IS hybrid is not going to drive anything as close to an IS F or an IS 350, however it would be great to expand the IS line. Very soon we'll get an IS 200t, does Lexus really need an IS turbo?
I'm sure some people in the U.S. market would rather have a rwd hybrid (ISh) than an fwd hybrid (ESh) with a sportier look (IS) than an old man's look (ES). Again more selection is better for us...oh bring back the HS 250h as well...and bring the RC 300h to the U.S.
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That's like saying Lexus doesn't need an ES hybrid, GS hybrid's (GS 300h/450h), RX hybrid, LS hybrid, RC hybrid, IS hybrid or an NX hybrid.
An IS hybrid is not going to drive anything as close to an IS F or an IS 350, however it would be great to expand the IS line. Very soon we'll get an IS 200t, does Lexus really need an IS turbo?
I'm sure some people in the U.S. market would rather have a rwd hybrid (ISh) than an fwd hybrid (ESh) with a sportier look (IS) than an old man's look (ES). Again more selection is better for us...oh bring back the HS 250h as well...and bring the RC 300h to the U.S.
An IS hybrid is not going to drive anything as close to an IS F or an IS 350, however it would be great to expand the IS line. Very soon we'll get an IS 200t, does Lexus really need an IS turbo?
I'm sure some people in the U.S. market would rather have a rwd hybrid (ISh) than an fwd hybrid (ESh) with a sportier look (IS) than an old man's look (ES). Again more selection is better for us...oh bring back the HS 250h as well...and bring the RC 300h to the U.S.
But you're right, choice isn't a bad thing.
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So the M30d (with its V9X six-cylinder Diesel Engine) is now phased-out in Europe..........and replaced with a four banger diesel?
That is one step back.....
Seriously, premium car buyers in Europe really need to try harder imho. If you can't afford a bigger engine, then you should either find more ways to earn more money so you can afford it OR go into a lower class/category of vehicle.
That is one step back.....
Seriously, premium car buyers in Europe really need to try harder imho. If you can't afford a bigger engine, then you should either find more ways to earn more money so you can afford it OR go into a lower class/category of vehicle.
Driving a big non performance engine in congested European cities and their tiny roads doesn't make any sense and then there's a taxing issues as well. I believe even 335 is a very rare sight in Europe. Big petrol sixers in sedans have never been adopted by European customers properly cause they don't need them.
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Well premium or luxury depends on the mindset. To some premium is only the badge, to some its power windows and to some its big engine.
Driving a big non performance engine in congested European cities and their tiny roads doesn't make any sense and then there's a taxing issues as well. I believe even 335 is a very rare sight in Europe. Big petrol sixers in sedans have never been adopted by European customers properly cause they don't need them.
Driving a big non performance engine in congested European cities and their tiny roads doesn't make any sense and then there's a taxing issues as well. I believe even 335 is a very rare sight in Europe. Big petrol sixers in sedans have never been adopted by European customers properly cause they don't need them.
Still, I'm surprised that Nissan-Renault would do this even for there diesel engine lineup in Europe. I could understand if they replaced the 3.7 liter V6 petrol engine (VQ37VHR) with say a 2.5 litter petrol (VQ25DE)..........but replacing the 3.0 diesel V6 with 2.2 liter diesel four-banger is quite hard to accept.
Why not offer both?
BMW offers both a 520d and a 530d. Jaguar retains the 3.0 Diesel six-cylinder engine (Ford-PSA AJD V6) as well as their 2.2 liter Diesel four-cylinder engine (Ford Duratoq i4)
2015 Nissan Fuga unveiled in Japan
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Infiniti and Nissan have introduced the 2015 Fuga in Japan.
Like the facelifted Infiniti Q70, the updated Fuga has a new front fascia with a revised grille that is flanked by LED headlights and LED daytime running lights. The sedan also has additional chrome trim, restyled mirrors - with integrated turn signals - and new 18-inch aluminum wheels. Out back, there's a modified rear bumper and LED taillights.
Interior changes are relatively limited but include additional sound deadening material, a revised glove box and an improved rear seat.
Under the hood, three engines are available including:
A 2.5-liter V6 with 225 PS (165kW) and 258 Nm (190 lb-ft) of torque
A 3.7-liter V6 with 333 PS (245 kW) and 363 Nm (267 lb-ft) of torque
A hybridized 3.5-liter V6 with a combined maximum output of 364 PS (268 kW)
The Fuga is currently on sale and Japanese pricing starts at ¥4,104,000.
Like the facelifted Infiniti Q70, the updated Fuga has a new front fascia with a revised grille that is flanked by LED headlights and LED daytime running lights. The sedan also has additional chrome trim, restyled mirrors - with integrated turn signals - and new 18-inch aluminum wheels. Out back, there's a modified rear bumper and LED taillights.
Interior changes are relatively limited but include additional sound deadening material, a revised glove box and an improved rear seat.
Under the hood, three engines are available including:
A 2.5-liter V6 with 225 PS (165kW) and 258 Nm (190 lb-ft) of torque
A 3.7-liter V6 with 333 PS (245 kW) and 363 Nm (267 lb-ft) of torque
A hybridized 3.5-liter V6 with a combined maximum output of 364 PS (268 kW)
The Fuga is currently on sale and Japanese pricing starts at ¥4,104,000.
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