would you trust this?
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would you trust this?
i had posted about a carfax earlier for an ES 350. im sorry for asking didnt know it was part of the rules that the carfax information not be given out like that. but here is an e-mail i received for a 2007 ES 350 with 12000 miles for 22,900 would you trust this car? i have and is250 awd 2008 and been thinking of upgrading to an used ES i dont want brand new will lose alot of money in the deal.
This was a low Fresh water flood
It was paid in a claim,
Our dealership has been
Specializing in buying and selling these type of vehicles
For the last 24 years
We buy the ones that need very little
We call them floor floods
Even though they have little wrong with them
The insurance company pays out to escape liability
And to avoid nuisance
Most of them are bought running and driving
If water has come into the car on the floor
we take the carpets out and do everything necessary,
There is very little on the floor of the car so it is easy
For our technician to go through them
So they never have problems in the future
This was a low Fresh water flood
It was paid in a claim,
Our dealership has been
Specializing in buying and selling these type of vehicles
For the last 24 years
We buy the ones that need very little
We call them floor floods
Even though they have little wrong with them
The insurance company pays out to escape liability
And to avoid nuisance
Most of them are bought running and driving
If water has come into the car on the floor
we take the carpets out and do everything necessary,
There is very little on the floor of the car so it is easy
For our technician to go through them
So they never have problems in the future
I read the first line and already thought "no".
I would not want a car that had been damaged by water or anything else. Additionally, why would you want to trade your IS awd for an ES? Size?
I would not want a car that had been damaged by water or anything else. Additionally, why would you want to trade your IS awd for an ES? Size?
HELL NO!!!!!!!
Ask them if they're willing to GIVE this car to their own Grandparents.
So full of crap. Unless they're willing to give 100k miles warranty, then maybe.
There is very little on the floor of the car so it is easy
For our technician to go through them
So they never have problems in the future
For our technician to go through them
So they never have problems in the future
So full of crap. Unless they're willing to give 100k miles warranty, then maybe.
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There is no way of measuring the "waterline" on the car short of pulling a door panel and looking at the backside. Even these can be misleading. Basically, if a car has had standing water inside, it needs to go to the crusher.
I've had a couple of cars that were flood damaged. My wife's Riviera was a restored beauty until water came in over the doorsills while she was gridlocked in a HEAVY thunderstorm. We thought we might have been lucky, but about three weeks later the fun began as one system after another flickered and died. The damage was mostly corroded connections, but it would require a complete rewire of the car to fix. If you've fooled with DC electrics, you know there is NOTHING worth that struggle.
The problem in more modern cars is potential damage to the computers - not only are they difficult to trace out, they are EXPENSIVE to replace. Depending on the car, most computer blocks are in the dash or under the seats. If they or any of their connections get wet - even though they may work now, they will display all kinds of "quirks" in the future. Running down those problems and repairing them one by one will cost a fortune and you will never EVER be able to depend on your car.
Don't walk away . . . RUN!
I've had a couple of cars that were flood damaged. My wife's Riviera was a restored beauty until water came in over the doorsills while she was gridlocked in a HEAVY thunderstorm. We thought we might have been lucky, but about three weeks later the fun began as one system after another flickered and died. The damage was mostly corroded connections, but it would require a complete rewire of the car to fix. If you've fooled with DC electrics, you know there is NOTHING worth that struggle.
The problem in more modern cars is potential damage to the computers - not only are they difficult to trace out, they are EXPENSIVE to replace. Depending on the car, most computer blocks are in the dash or under the seats. If they or any of their connections get wet - even though they may work now, they will display all kinds of "quirks" in the future. Running down those problems and repairing them one by one will cost a fortune and you will never EVER be able to depend on your car.
Don't walk away . . . RUN!
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