Official S5 "I'd hit it all night long" thread
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How do you figure that this car is worth what they are trying to charge?
While I do not disagree that this is an absolutely beautiful car, and it was initially my first choice before it came out....there is no way it is worth the price. The S5 is grossly underpowered considering that it is more than an F, as much as a C63 and only slightly less than an M3.
The extra cash just to look pretty?
Can't justify all show and no go at this price point.
While I do not disagree that this is an absolutely beautiful car, and it was initially my first choice before it came out....there is no way it is worth the price. The S5 is grossly underpowered considering that it is more than an F, as much as a C63 and only slightly less than an M3.
The extra cash just to look pretty?
Can't justify all show and no go at this price point.
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The alluring factor about this car is its looks inside and out. Almost everyone will agree on that, coupled with build quality, fit/finish and use of materials, etc is impeccable.
The performance factor is second about this car. I dont believe people are going to the dealership to buy this car because of performance...some reviews weigh it against an M3 and others against a 335i. No matter how you look at it there is no competition on the fit/finish of this car against the BMW or Benze. The fact its available and more menacing in its V8 form adds to its allure convincing people that want "more" than its V6 brother.
I do see your point in it being 350HP and underpowered versus its competitors. Every magazine, article review, editorial you read comments half of the report on its design execution. Audi knew they hit the nail on the head on this car with that and that byitself has lead to its success.
It is priced higher than its competitiors because simply it beats the pants off of the mercedes and BMW in its design and aesthetics hands down. Audi and Da Silva gave the public exactly what a sesnational coupe ought to look like. Yes, many people pay to look pretty.
I have many others that would probably agree it looks more expensive than it is. Is that fair to say its overpriced? Perhap, depending on what grounds you measure up against. It is a car that has a style and charisma of its own. There is somethign about this car that makes you want to stare at it and then talk about it all day long on a forum on the internet LMAO.
The performance aspect, as I said is not up to par with its competitiors but the fact its finish is what it is does make up for it in my opinion. That is whats commanded a higher premium while still giving it an average powertrain in comparison to its competitiors. Depends how you look at it I guess.
My overall thoughts are at 55k, for a luxury coupe that is 350HP and has this kind of looks, would entice me to spend $55K knowing the competition offers more punch.
At the end of the day, to me - looks come first...then everythign else after LOL
just my two cents.
The performance factor is second about this car. I dont believe people are going to the dealership to buy this car because of performance...some reviews weigh it against an M3 and others against a 335i. No matter how you look at it there is no competition on the fit/finish of this car against the BMW or Benze. The fact its available and more menacing in its V8 form adds to its allure convincing people that want "more" than its V6 brother.
I do see your point in it being 350HP and underpowered versus its competitors. Every magazine, article review, editorial you read comments half of the report on its design execution. Audi knew they hit the nail on the head on this car with that and that byitself has lead to its success.
It is priced higher than its competitiors because simply it beats the pants off of the mercedes and BMW in its design and aesthetics hands down. Audi and Da Silva gave the public exactly what a sesnational coupe ought to look like. Yes, many people pay to look pretty.
I have many others that would probably agree it looks more expensive than it is. Is that fair to say its overpriced? Perhap, depending on what grounds you measure up against. It is a car that has a style and charisma of its own. There is somethign about this car that makes you want to stare at it and then talk about it all day long on a forum on the internet LMAO.
The performance aspect, as I said is not up to par with its competitiors but the fact its finish is what it is does make up for it in my opinion. That is whats commanded a higher premium while still giving it an average powertrain in comparison to its competitiors. Depends how you look at it I guess.
My overall thoughts are at 55k, for a luxury coupe that is 350HP and has this kind of looks, would entice me to spend $55K knowing the competition offers more punch.
At the end of the day, to me - looks come first...then everythign else after LOL
just my two cents.
Last edited by xcntuatd77; Aug 18, 2009 at 10:06 PM.
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The alluring factor about this car is its looks inside and out. Almost everyone will agree on that, coupled with build quality, fit/finish and use of materials, etc is impeccable.
The performance factor is second about this car. I dont believe people are going to the dealership to buy this car because of performance...the M3 or C63 offers more on that side. The fact its available and more menacing in its V8 form adds to its allure convincing people that want "more" than its V6 brother.
I do see your point in it being 350HP and underpowered versus its competitors. Every magazine, article review, editorial you read comments half of the report on its design execution. Audi knew they hit the nail on the head on this car with that and that byitself has lead to its success. Its sales numbers are through the roof and has been a hit since day one.
It is priced higher than its competitiors because simply it beats the pants off of the mercedes and BMW in its design and aesthetics hands down. Audi and Da Silva gave the public exactly what a sesnational coupe ought to look like - the flare it has been missing.
The performance aspect, as I said is not up to par with its competitiors but the fact its finish is what it is does make up for it in my opinion. That has whats commanded higher premium while not completely ignoring performance as well.
just my two cents.
The performance factor is second about this car. I dont believe people are going to the dealership to buy this car because of performance...the M3 or C63 offers more on that side. The fact its available and more menacing in its V8 form adds to its allure convincing people that want "more" than its V6 brother.
I do see your point in it being 350HP and underpowered versus its competitors. Every magazine, article review, editorial you read comments half of the report on its design execution. Audi knew they hit the nail on the head on this car with that and that byitself has lead to its success. Its sales numbers are through the roof and has been a hit since day one.
It is priced higher than its competitiors because simply it beats the pants off of the mercedes and BMW in its design and aesthetics hands down. Audi and Da Silva gave the public exactly what a sesnational coupe ought to look like - the flare it has been missing.
The performance aspect, as I said is not up to par with its competitiors but the fact its finish is what it is does make up for it in my opinion. That has whats commanded higher premium while not completely ignoring performance as well.
just my two cents.
We can agree to disagree that the premium price for the S5 is justfified.
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Agreed.
This makes me wonder about the situation with the new camaro. A V6 semi loaded coupe runs about $24-25K and dealers are charging about $30K for it and people are actually paying that. It hasnt had any affect on its demand. The supply is miscule and the public is paying. Initially a friend of mine at GM said itll only be like this for a few months with a hot model that has come out...however even he feels it will continue to command over sticker premiums for a while longer than anticipated.
Simply, If it looks right and executed right, it will not fail.
The S5 has not had a SINGLE month of ANY incentive WHATSOEVER in its 2 years since its inception. It is the ONLY audi model that has not had any incentive in cash, rebate, or special finance rate. The R8 even has had incentives though if you are buying that coupe you really dont care for it. Point being that when you know youve created a masterpiece, you know it will sell, regardless of how well or bad it flares against its competitiors.
Just goes to show you that the driving point is: design really sells. And people will buy it to be exclusive.
This makes me wonder about the situation with the new camaro. A V6 semi loaded coupe runs about $24-25K and dealers are charging about $30K for it and people are actually paying that. It hasnt had any affect on its demand. The supply is miscule and the public is paying. Initially a friend of mine at GM said itll only be like this for a few months with a hot model that has come out...however even he feels it will continue to command over sticker premiums for a while longer than anticipated.
Simply, If it looks right and executed right, it will not fail.
The S5 has not had a SINGLE month of ANY incentive WHATSOEVER in its 2 years since its inception. It is the ONLY audi model that has not had any incentive in cash, rebate, or special finance rate. The R8 even has had incentives though if you are buying that coupe you really dont care for it. Point being that when you know youve created a masterpiece, you know it will sell, regardless of how well or bad it flares against its competitiors.
Just goes to show you that the driving point is: design really sells. And people will buy it to be exclusive.
Last edited by xcntuatd77; Aug 18, 2009 at 10:32 PM.
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The thing is with this car is Audi only makes a few hence the supply is low and they can charge what the market demands. I really like the S5, but it is, especially fully loaded, too expensive for what it is. The A5, especially fully loaded It is not quite as sporty as the M3 or C63 and is damn close in price especially when you can get the others at a discount. Good looks only goes so far.
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There's no question, IMO, that it's a beautiful car in the looks department. Last December, an S5 was the special Holiday Review that I do for CL every Christmas season on a nice special car.
The thing is with this car is Audi only makes a few hence the supply is low and they can charge what the market demands. I really like the S5, but it is, especially fully loaded, too expensive for what it is. The A5, especially fully loaded It is not quite as sporty as the M3 or C63 and is damn close in price especially when you can get the others at a discount. Good looks only goes so far.
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You guys should not directly compare a S5 to a M3 or C63 IMO. The reason it is priced so high partly is because it is an AWD car. If they were to make a RWD version, it would probably be 2500+ less.
I wonder when the S5 is going to get the new S4 motor? I'd seriously consider one and throw some BBS LMs on it.
I wonder when the S5 is going to get the new S4 motor? I'd seriously consider one and throw some BBS LMs on it.
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Since the AWD is standard and you can't get the S5 without it you can compare the two. Just look at it as they wre throwing it in for free. Now on the other hand if you are in the warmer climates and don't want or need the AWD, then it's actually is a negative.
If you are buying the S5 you are buying it for 1) Looks as it is the most gorgeous car other than the R8 they make. and 2) For the speed, even though in reality it isn't that fast. You are not buying the S5 for handling as there are better handling cars for less.......IS-F.
If you are buying the S5 you are buying it for 1) Looks as it is the most gorgeous car other than the R8 they make. and 2) For the speed, even though in reality it isn't that fast. You are not buying the S5 for handling as there are better handling cars for less.......IS-F.
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Since the AWD is standard and you can't get the S5 without it you can compare the two. Just look at it as they wre throwing it in for free. Now on the other hand if you are in the warmer climates and don't want or need the AWD, then it's actually is a negative.
If you are buying the S5 you are buying it for 1) Looks as it is the most gorgeous car other than the R8 they make. and 2) For the speed, even though in reality it isn't that fast. You are not buying the S5 for handling as there are better handling cars for less.......IS-F.
If you are buying the S5 you are buying it for 1) Looks as it is the most gorgeous car other than the R8 they make. and 2) For the speed, even though in reality it isn't that fast. You are not buying the S5 for handling as there are better handling cars for less.......IS-F.
Better handling? Splitting hairs. I would guess your average driver can push the limits of an AWD car better than they can handle a RWD.
