Edmunds drives the new A4
Edmunds drives the new A4
Full Test: 2009 Audi A4
Audi Redesigns Its Bread and Butter
By Scott Oldham, Inside Line Editor in Chief
Date posted: 05-28-2008
The muscle-bound 40-something is obviously talking to us, but we can't hear him over his T-shirt that reads, "THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES."
He takes a couple of steps in our direction and tries again. "Your A4, is that the 2009 Audi A4?"
"Yes, it is," we say, pulling the pump's nozzle from the car. "You like?"
"You know," he says, quickly folding his arms. "There's only one thing wrong with this car." He pauses and looks right at me. "My BMW 335i can blow its doors off."
Our mind races for a comeback, but before we can respond he turns and walks away. Considering his T-shirt and Hulk Hogan-esque biceps, this is probably a good thing. Instead, we just stand there, dumbfounded, watching our rival climb into his black 335i and drive off.
"What an a-hole," we say as we return the pump's nozzle to its cradle, spin on the A4's gas cap, click, click and then land our buns into the Audi's perfectly shaped driver seat.
And then it hits us. That a-hole is right. Absolutely right. There is only one thing wrong with the 2009 Audi A4, and it's the simple fact that a BMW 335i can blow its doors off.
Still No Slug
Not that the A4 is a slug. Our test car's 265-horsepower 3.2-liter V6 is the more powerful of this all-new sedan's two engine offerings, and it has enough grunt to keep this 2009 A4 feeling sporty.
As before, the engine's power delivery is smooth and linear all the way to its 7,000-rpm redline. This is due in part to its direct injection and Audi's revised variable valve lift system (AVS), which allows the engine to breathe more deeply. Still, peak torque doesn't arrive until 3,000 rpm, so the V6 has to be worked fairly hard before you feel any real forward thrust.
At our test track, the A4 accelerates to 60 mph in 6.9 seconds (6.6 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip), and makes a quarter-mile pass in 15.0 seconds at 94.7 mph. This is a full second quicker in both tests than the last V6 automatic Audi A4 we tested way back in 2005. Trouble is, it's just OK performance in 2009. It's also a bit lethargic considering our test car's lofty sticker price.
The same $45,000 will buy you the 300-hp BMW 335i that hits 60 mph in 5 seconds flat when equipped with a six-speed automatic transmission like this A4 — and it's faster with the standard six-speed manual. The BMW's 13.6-second quarter-mile run also leads this class.
But the Audi isn't outrun only by its Bavarian rival. Despite a V6 that supplies 10 more hp than last year, the A4's oversize grille will be left in the dust by Aunt Sue in her Camry V6.
We can't help but be a bit disappointed. The A4 is all new, outside and in. Underneath, too. But its powertrains are not. When the A4 hits the U.S. market this fall, the 300-hp BMW 335i, 306-hp Lexus IS 350 and 306-hp Infiniti G35 will remain the heavy hitters in the class.
All-Wheel Jive
No manual transmission is available with the V6, only Audi's excellent six-speed automatic. All-wheel drive is also standard.
This is good. Quattro has been around since the earth cooled, and we're fans. In its present form, the purely mechanical system sends 60 percent of the engine's power to the rear wheels under normal driving conditions. In abnormal conditions, the A4's self-locking center differential redirects that power to the axle with the best traction.
It's not the world's most advanced all-wheel-drive system, but it works. The A4's high-speed stability is excellent and its initial turn-in is sharper than Beldar's head.
To further improve the A4's ride and handling, Audi's engineers increased its wheelbase by 6.6 inches. This has allowed them to move the front axle forward 6 inches, effectively moving the engine farther back in the car's chassis for better weight distribution. They also moved the battery to the trunk to remove even more weight from the car's nose. Finally, the A4's steering rack has been positioned lower and farther forward for increased feel and precision.
Our test car is equipped with the optional 19-Inch Sport package, which includes a firmer sport suspension and stickier Michelin Pilot Sport Tires. It also lowers the car about three-quarters of an inch. Just to make things confusing, however, our test car was mistakenly equipped with the 18-inch wheels and tires from the 18-Inch Sport package.
Awesome in the Turns
Despite this mix-up, this is the best-handling A4 we've ever tested. Its slalom speed of 70 mph and skid pad performance of 0.86g essentially match the numbers generated by the super high-performance Audi RS 4. Impressive. And the A4 feels good doing it. This is a very sharp, communicative sedan and it's fun to throw around.
Exhibiting impressive pedal feel, consistent response and minimal idle stroke, the A4's new brakes are also fantastic. They not only stop the sedan from 60 mph in just 107 feet (that's supercar territory), but they never overheat.
But don't trade in your BMW 3 Series just yet. The Audi's all-wheel-drive system might add stability to its road manners, but it also adds weight. At 3,870 pounds, this small sedan weighs 300 pounds more than its rival BMW, and you can feel that extra mass when wringing its neck on a mountain road.
Terminal understeer at the limit also remains a problem with the A4, but that's to be expected in an all-wheel-drive car with 55.5 percent of its weight over the front tires.
Still the Best Interior
That additional wheelbase does more than improve the 2009 A4's ride and handling, because it also gives this little sedan some useful rear-seat legroom at last. No, we're not kidding. Human adults with actual lower extremities now fit in the A4's rear seat.
Still, the place you want to be is behind the A4's three-spoke steering wheel. The sedan's interior is all-new and now resembles the larger A6 sedan and Q7 sport-utility. No bad thing.
The design of the A4's interior sets a new standard for small premium sedans. Not only is it fantastically comfortable, but also it looks beautifully modern and wonderfully constructed — nothing feels cheap. Every switch, **** and surface has been executed with the same wonderful obsessive-compulsive disorder we've come to expect from Audi's interior design geeks.
Function is improved, too, especially the controls for Audi's optional MMI (Multi Media Interface), which has a wide range of functions, including the car's navigation and sound systems. It makes iDrive seem like a cruel joke. Our test car is also equipped with the optional 505-watt Bang & Olufsen audio arrangement that feeds 10 channels of sound through no fewer than 14 speakers. We have no complaints.
Plenty of Gizmos
Our test car has also been equipped with the optional radar-supported automatic cruise control (ACC), the company's parking system (APS) and Audi Side Assist (ASA), which warns you if there's a car in your blind spot. They all work as advertised, but seem unnecessary if you just pay attention and drive well.
We can't say the same for the optional Audi Drive Select (ADS) system. Oh, it, too, works as advertised, but it also makes this a better driver's car. With the push of a button the system will vary the engine, transmission, steering and suspension characteristics to suit the driver's preferences. There are three settings for each: Dynamic, Auto and Comfort.
After much experimentation we found ourselves setting the engine, transmission and steering in Dynamic for the most response, and the suspension in Comfort to take the edge off the ride harshness in the city. Our only problem with the system is that it defaults to the Auto settings every time you start the car. It shouldn't. It should default to Individual, which are your custom choices. As it is, you need to push the button every time you climb behind the wheel. Dumb.
Oh, So Good
The first Audi A4 hit the U.S. market back in 1994. At the time, Audis were a little less desirable than acute diarrhea. But the car was good. So good, Americans quickly forgot all about 60 Minutes and unintended acceleration, the poisonous combination that had all but sunk the German car company during the early 1990s.
Americans wanted the A4. In 1994, Audi sold 12,575 cars in the United States. By 1996, total Audi sales were up to 27,379, largely on the back of the A4. And they've been on the rise ever since.
The A4 is Audi. It's the car that saved the company 14 years ago and it remains its best-seller today. Changing it is risky. Flub it and Audi would turn back its clock more than a decade.
But the 2009 Audi A4 is no flub. It's easily the best A4 ever. Audi has been an artistic success for a long time, but it hadn't quite unlocked the secret to big-time commercial success in America. With the new 2009 A4, Audi has cracked the code at last.
Audi Redesigns Its Bread and Butter
By Scott Oldham, Inside Line Editor in Chief
Date posted: 05-28-2008
The muscle-bound 40-something is obviously talking to us, but we can't hear him over his T-shirt that reads, "THE BEATINGS WILL CONTINUE UNTIL MORALE IMPROVES."
He takes a couple of steps in our direction and tries again. "Your A4, is that the 2009 Audi A4?"
"Yes, it is," we say, pulling the pump's nozzle from the car. "You like?"
"You know," he says, quickly folding his arms. "There's only one thing wrong with this car." He pauses and looks right at me. "My BMW 335i can blow its doors off."
Our mind races for a comeback, but before we can respond he turns and walks away. Considering his T-shirt and Hulk Hogan-esque biceps, this is probably a good thing. Instead, we just stand there, dumbfounded, watching our rival climb into his black 335i and drive off.
"What an a-hole," we say as we return the pump's nozzle to its cradle, spin on the A4's gas cap, click, click and then land our buns into the Audi's perfectly shaped driver seat.
And then it hits us. That a-hole is right. Absolutely right. There is only one thing wrong with the 2009 Audi A4, and it's the simple fact that a BMW 335i can blow its doors off.
Still No Slug
Not that the A4 is a slug. Our test car's 265-horsepower 3.2-liter V6 is the more powerful of this all-new sedan's two engine offerings, and it has enough grunt to keep this 2009 A4 feeling sporty.
As before, the engine's power delivery is smooth and linear all the way to its 7,000-rpm redline. This is due in part to its direct injection and Audi's revised variable valve lift system (AVS), which allows the engine to breathe more deeply. Still, peak torque doesn't arrive until 3,000 rpm, so the V6 has to be worked fairly hard before you feel any real forward thrust.
At our test track, the A4 accelerates to 60 mph in 6.9 seconds (6.6 seconds with 1 foot of rollout like on a drag strip), and makes a quarter-mile pass in 15.0 seconds at 94.7 mph. This is a full second quicker in both tests than the last V6 automatic Audi A4 we tested way back in 2005. Trouble is, it's just OK performance in 2009. It's also a bit lethargic considering our test car's lofty sticker price.
The same $45,000 will buy you the 300-hp BMW 335i that hits 60 mph in 5 seconds flat when equipped with a six-speed automatic transmission like this A4 — and it's faster with the standard six-speed manual. The BMW's 13.6-second quarter-mile run also leads this class.
But the Audi isn't outrun only by its Bavarian rival. Despite a V6 that supplies 10 more hp than last year, the A4's oversize grille will be left in the dust by Aunt Sue in her Camry V6.
We can't help but be a bit disappointed. The A4 is all new, outside and in. Underneath, too. But its powertrains are not. When the A4 hits the U.S. market this fall, the 300-hp BMW 335i, 306-hp Lexus IS 350 and 306-hp Infiniti G35 will remain the heavy hitters in the class.
All-Wheel Jive
No manual transmission is available with the V6, only Audi's excellent six-speed automatic. All-wheel drive is also standard.
This is good. Quattro has been around since the earth cooled, and we're fans. In its present form, the purely mechanical system sends 60 percent of the engine's power to the rear wheels under normal driving conditions. In abnormal conditions, the A4's self-locking center differential redirects that power to the axle with the best traction.
It's not the world's most advanced all-wheel-drive system, but it works. The A4's high-speed stability is excellent and its initial turn-in is sharper than Beldar's head.
To further improve the A4's ride and handling, Audi's engineers increased its wheelbase by 6.6 inches. This has allowed them to move the front axle forward 6 inches, effectively moving the engine farther back in the car's chassis for better weight distribution. They also moved the battery to the trunk to remove even more weight from the car's nose. Finally, the A4's steering rack has been positioned lower and farther forward for increased feel and precision.
Our test car is equipped with the optional 19-Inch Sport package, which includes a firmer sport suspension and stickier Michelin Pilot Sport Tires. It also lowers the car about three-quarters of an inch. Just to make things confusing, however, our test car was mistakenly equipped with the 18-inch wheels and tires from the 18-Inch Sport package.
Awesome in the Turns
Despite this mix-up, this is the best-handling A4 we've ever tested. Its slalom speed of 70 mph and skid pad performance of 0.86g essentially match the numbers generated by the super high-performance Audi RS 4. Impressive. And the A4 feels good doing it. This is a very sharp, communicative sedan and it's fun to throw around.
Exhibiting impressive pedal feel, consistent response and minimal idle stroke, the A4's new brakes are also fantastic. They not only stop the sedan from 60 mph in just 107 feet (that's supercar territory), but they never overheat.
But don't trade in your BMW 3 Series just yet. The Audi's all-wheel-drive system might add stability to its road manners, but it also adds weight. At 3,870 pounds, this small sedan weighs 300 pounds more than its rival BMW, and you can feel that extra mass when wringing its neck on a mountain road.
Terminal understeer at the limit also remains a problem with the A4, but that's to be expected in an all-wheel-drive car with 55.5 percent of its weight over the front tires.
Still the Best Interior
That additional wheelbase does more than improve the 2009 A4's ride and handling, because it also gives this little sedan some useful rear-seat legroom at last. No, we're not kidding. Human adults with actual lower extremities now fit in the A4's rear seat.
Still, the place you want to be is behind the A4's three-spoke steering wheel. The sedan's interior is all-new and now resembles the larger A6 sedan and Q7 sport-utility. No bad thing.
The design of the A4's interior sets a new standard for small premium sedans. Not only is it fantastically comfortable, but also it looks beautifully modern and wonderfully constructed — nothing feels cheap. Every switch, **** and surface has been executed with the same wonderful obsessive-compulsive disorder we've come to expect from Audi's interior design geeks.
Function is improved, too, especially the controls for Audi's optional MMI (Multi Media Interface), which has a wide range of functions, including the car's navigation and sound systems. It makes iDrive seem like a cruel joke. Our test car is also equipped with the optional 505-watt Bang & Olufsen audio arrangement that feeds 10 channels of sound through no fewer than 14 speakers. We have no complaints.
Plenty of Gizmos
Our test car has also been equipped with the optional radar-supported automatic cruise control (ACC), the company's parking system (APS) and Audi Side Assist (ASA), which warns you if there's a car in your blind spot. They all work as advertised, but seem unnecessary if you just pay attention and drive well.
We can't say the same for the optional Audi Drive Select (ADS) system. Oh, it, too, works as advertised, but it also makes this a better driver's car. With the push of a button the system will vary the engine, transmission, steering and suspension characteristics to suit the driver's preferences. There are three settings for each: Dynamic, Auto and Comfort.
After much experimentation we found ourselves setting the engine, transmission and steering in Dynamic for the most response, and the suspension in Comfort to take the edge off the ride harshness in the city. Our only problem with the system is that it defaults to the Auto settings every time you start the car. It shouldn't. It should default to Individual, which are your custom choices. As it is, you need to push the button every time you climb behind the wheel. Dumb.
Oh, So Good
The first Audi A4 hit the U.S. market back in 1994. At the time, Audis were a little less desirable than acute diarrhea. But the car was good. So good, Americans quickly forgot all about 60 Minutes and unintended acceleration, the poisonous combination that had all but sunk the German car company during the early 1990s.
Americans wanted the A4. In 1994, Audi sold 12,575 cars in the United States. By 1996, total Audi sales were up to 27,379, largely on the back of the A4. And they've been on the rise ever since.
The A4 is Audi. It's the car that saved the company 14 years ago and it remains its best-seller today. Changing it is risky. Flub it and Audi would turn back its clock more than a decade.
But the 2009 Audi A4 is no flub. It's easily the best A4 ever. Audi has been an artistic success for a long time, but it hadn't quite unlocked the secret to big-time commercial success in America. With the new 2009 A4, Audi has cracked the code at last.
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Positive review. But it weighs as much as the IS-F despite having 2/3 the literage and 2 fewer cylinders! Even for an AWD, that's not good. I suppose the 6.6 inches more of car had a lot to do with that.
Also, does anyone have updated rear leg room specs? On one site that claimed to list the specs for the 2009 model, it still said rear leg room was 34.3", which is the same as the older model. I'm interested to see how much more room they were able to put in back, especially since - even at the old model's 34.3" - this was one area in which Audi definitely beat the IS and other class competitors.
Also, does anyone have updated rear leg room specs? On one site that claimed to list the specs for the 2009 model, it still said rear leg room was 34.3", which is the same as the older model. I'm interested to see how much more room they were able to put in back, especially since - even at the old model's 34.3" - this was one area in which Audi definitely beat the IS and other class competitors.
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So underwhelming its not even funny. Looks like any Audi the past 10 years. Yes the interior will be nice but still FWD stock and AWD as an option with meager engines compared to some others.
They are not trying hard enough with this car, but surely the S4/RS4 will be nicer.
They are not trying hard enough with this car, but surely the S4/RS4 will be nicer.
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Still the same issue is having A4, S4 and RS4 models. You have to go with an S model to start getting engine performance. The S4 is nice but a little pricey if you don't really need all wheel drive. I liked the interior of the car a lot though. The salesmen were jerks though.
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This is not going to help Audi in its struggling efforts to gain US market share. It still looks like the A4 of 7 years ago. They have not been exactly selling as many as they would like. Bringing out a car that looks the same is not going to boost sales. Combine that with the fact that dollar for dollar, you are outpowered by BMW (which are not cheap) Lexus and Infiniti. To get some cahones, you will have to step up to an S4, which will likely be $8-10,000 more when it comes out.
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The Audi cars lack a good performance per dollar ratio. The S4 is a good(not great) car is a good starter but it lacks performance mods to make it faster. The new 335i is great in that realm. You can get 400hp at the wheels with some various mods. Even though the S4 was a little nicer looking on the inside and had allwheel drive it just wasn't as good of a deal. The one I looked at was $56k. For that much I am will get my current car plus all the Dinan upgrades as well. Tough to beat that deal. The RS4 is pretty sweet though. I was highly impressed with the sound and design of that car.
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Yeah, I don't think anyone disputes this. I saw an RS4 at my local Audi dealer the other day and it had an MSRP of $76k. I'm sure some haggling could bring down the price, but otherwise that'd be over $80k OTD! Talk about sticker shock!
I prefer the previous generation A4 body style, compared to the 09 bodystyle. The 265 HP is not enough for the class it's in, compared to the 330, IS350, etc. I know they handle well, but being heavier and slower doesn't appeal to me. Audi needs a higher HP version of the A4, around the 300HP range IMHO.
As a performance car is def lacks.
However, as a daily driver, I would buy another one. Skip the V6 and get the wonderful 2.0Turbo. Many many mods available for it, and step up to a Ko4 and you are pushing over 300hp and more tq.
However, as a daily driver, I would buy another one. Skip the V6 and get the wonderful 2.0Turbo. Many many mods available for it, and step up to a Ko4 and you are pushing over 300hp and more tq.
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You know, we might be in for a sea change here with the price of gasoline but if Audi wants to be seen as the smartest guys in the room, it needs to wake up and realize that the goodness they get with the AWD saps hp pure and simple. And here in the US, at least up until recently, most of what is going to sell sport is going to be at stop lights. Audi has needed, and still needs, to be thinking about 10 to 15% more hp to be competitive in acceleration in non-downpour weather with the RWDers. Before an Audi fanboy pops up, I really, really like Audis (fantasy perfection may just be an Audi interior in a BMW) but the AWD is not going to get you bragging rights anymore than using recyclable shopping bags.
If Audi just wanted to sell the AWD as a safety or convenience feature, might have a hard time carving out a slot from Subie, then they should do it. But if they want to play mine is bigger than yours in the sport sedan world, they need to put some more grunt in their cars. But man, is it late to be waking up to that decision. More grunt, and bigger grunt inspired appetite's, are in for a change in their own right.
If Audi just wanted to sell the AWD as a safety or convenience feature, might have a hard time carving out a slot from Subie, then they should do it. But if they want to play mine is bigger than yours in the sport sedan world, they need to put some more grunt in their cars. But man, is it late to be waking up to that decision. More grunt, and bigger grunt inspired appetite's, are in for a change in their own right.
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