View Poll Results: Supra and 335? Friend or Foe? Both 35k, which one for you?
BMW 335, class and performance. New tech and just as fast.
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24.10%
Toyota Supra, performance and dash. Urban Legend, so sexy to look at.
40
48.19%
I want to vote that both are just stellar and are great engineering efforts by BMW/Toyota.
20
24.10%
Mugen Civic Type J SH-AWD A-spec ftmfw
7
8.43%
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FightClub! BMW 335 vs Toyota MK IV Supra..friend or foe? (please keep it clean)
01-04-08, 08:30 PM
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You're wrong about the Germans inventing the "automobile" and the "internal combustion engine":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...engine#History
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...engine#History
Did the Germans also invent bad wiring or did the Chinese get to that first?
What came first, the broken VHS-player or a car catching fire from bad grounds? 
01-04-08, 11:01 PM
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I can't said it better myself. I totally agree with you there. My heart still goes to supra but I can't see myself paying 45K for a supra which is 13 years old when I can get a brand spanking new car with similar performance.
01-05-08, 12:04 AM
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You're wrong about the Germans inventing the "automobile" and the "internal combustion engine":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...engine#History
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...engine#History
Although several other German engineers (including Gottlieb Daimler, Wilhelm Maybach, and Siegfried Marcus) were working on the problem at about the same time, Karl Benz is generally acknowledged as the inventor of the modern automobile.[5] In 1879 Benz was granted a patent for his first engine, designed in 1878. Many of his other inventions made the use of the internal combustion engine feasible for powering a vehicle and in 1896, Benz designed and patented the first internal combustion flat engine.
Well just say they gave us what we now know as the first feasible internal combustion engine.
Nikolaus August Otto (June 10, 1832 Holzhausen an der Haide, Nassau - January 26, 1891 Cologne) was the German inventor of the first internal-combustion engine to efficiently burn fuel directly in a piston chamber. Although other internal combustion engines had been invented (e.g.The concept of four strokes is likely to have been around at the time of Otto's invention but he was the first to make it practical [1]
01-05-08, 12:06 AM
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01-05-08, 10:03 PM
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You just proved yourself wrong the, the Germans did give us the first modern automobile.
From your first wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile)
From your first wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile)
Well just say they gave us what we now know as the first feasible internal combustion engine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolaus_Otto
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolaus_Otto
01-06-08, 02:06 AM
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No I didn't. I used your quote exactly. You originally said "automobile". You didn't say "first modern automobile". I see you're backtracking on what you originally said.
What they, the Germans, gave us was an innovation on what was already created, the "internal combustion engine". Similarly, I wouldn't credit the Germans for "inventing" the "diesel engine" or the "Wankel engine". But I would credit them for bringing innovations to the "internal combustion engine". Would you call anti-lock brakes an innovation or an invention?
What they, the Germans, gave us was an innovation on what was already created, the "internal combustion engine". Similarly, I wouldn't credit the Germans for "inventing" the "diesel engine" or the "Wankel engine". But I would credit them for bringing innovations to the "internal combustion engine". Would you call anti-lock brakes an innovation or an invention?
I'm not going to argue semantics with you. You and I both know you are arguing over something completely frivolous.
Dr. Felix Wankel (a German) invented the Wankel engine (link), that is a fact. Dr. Rudolph Diesel (a German) invented the diesel engine (link), that is a fact.
01-06-08, 01:44 PM
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Even though I think the Supra is one of the most overrated cars of I'll time, I'd still take one over the 335. The 335 isn't as fast stock or modified, plus it doesn't look nearly as nice. It's not really close in my opinion
01-06-08, 04:58 PM
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Well who knows when Toyota will release the new Supra, its way over due. For those of you who haven't seen it take a look. http://www.2008toyotasupra.net/orang...supra-drawing/
http://jalopnik.com/cars/super-supra...und-264388.php
http://jalopnik.com/cars/super-supra...und-264388.php
01-06-08, 09:29 PM
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Well who knows when Toyota will release the new Supra, its way over due. For those of you who haven't seen it take a look. http://www.2008toyotasupra.net/orang...supra-drawing/
http://jalopnik.com/cars/super-supra...und-264388.php
http://jalopnik.com/cars/super-supra...und-264388.php
01-06-08, 09:51 PM
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01-06-08, 10:45 PM
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Sure the Supra has near "limitless" potential, along with the 335i (to a lesser extent) but I am not going to use between 800-1000hp from a 2JZ on a daily basis. The refinement of the 335i is fantastic IMO. The potential of the Supra is fantastic, I cant get over that. The Supra is a legend. The 335i is still maturing (damn fuel pump!). Toyota has reliability. BMW has its brand name (for the chicks)
But when it comes down to it I seriously cant choose either one! But if the R34 came into the equation...
But when it comes down to it I seriously cant choose either one! But if the R34 came into the equation...