M3 Concept at Geneva (Update - Official Specs pg. 8)
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Is anyone else not feeling the 'bump' on the hood? I think the coupe is very good looking, but I don't like the hood on the concept. I like the vents, but not that bump. The front/rear spoilers are good.
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Unfortunately I think that bump or dome is a necessity to fit the V8 engine. Lexus went with a totally redesigned hood to fit a V8 into the IS-F, while BMW decided to merely add a dome to their hood.
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You mean Ricer? I agree, IS-F looks like a FWD pro-drag car. It's almost like the Lexus designer team got to the game late and decides to steal some design cues from what we were doing on the track 4-5 yrs ago. Lexus didn't follow their philosophy enough and did IF-S as an afterthought. They didn't plan ahead from the beginning and design the length of the car to except a V8.
To be fair, BMW also didn't plan ahead, that's why they have to have this dumb lookin hood bulge. My aftermarket Civic hood looks way cooler and is more functional. However, BMW got lucky due to their persistant use of an inline 6, they have plenty of room to drop in a V8 without needing to lengthen the frontend to messup their famous short overhang. Actually, by adding a V8, there is now more engine bay room between radiator/engine and may make M3 even more balance.
Now if only we can get Bangle to do a "Bangle Butt" to this M3 instead of that lame and boring one they currently have on, then M3 concept will be tight. But thanks to all the misguided Bangle haters, we get this bland butt you see here.
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You mean Ricer? I agree, IS-F looks like a FWD pro-drag car. It's almost like the Lexus designer team got to the game late and decides to steal some design cues from what we were doing on the track 4-5 yrs ago. Lexus didn't follow their philosophy enough and did IF-S as an afterthought. They didn't plan ahead from the beginning and design the length of the car to except a V8.
To be fair, BMW also didn't plan ahead, that's why they have to have this dumb lookin hood bulge. My aftermarket Civic hood looks way cooler and is more functional. However, BMW got lucky due to their persistant use of an inline 6, they have plenty of room to drop in a V8 without needing to lengthen the frontend to messup their famous short overhang. Actually, by adding a V8, there is now more engine bay room between radiator/engine and may make M3 even more balance.
Now if only we can get Bangle to do a "Bangle Butt" to this M3 instead of that lame and boring one they currently have on, then M3 concept will be tight. But thanks to all the misguided Bangle haters, we get this bland butt you see here.
To be fair, BMW also didn't plan ahead, that's why they have to have this dumb lookin hood bulge. My aftermarket Civic hood looks way cooler and is more functional. However, BMW got lucky due to their persistant use of an inline 6, they have plenty of room to drop in a V8 without needing to lengthen the frontend to messup their famous short overhang. Actually, by adding a V8, there is now more engine bay room between radiator/engine and may make M3 even more balance.
Now if only we can get Bangle to do a "Bangle Butt" to this M3 instead of that lame and boring one they currently have on, then M3 concept will be tight. But thanks to all the misguided Bangle haters, we get this bland butt you see here.
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BMW’s new V8 engine for the M3
After months of speculation surrounding BMW’s next M3, we can finally confirm some of the details from our previous post, namely, the new M3 will be powered by a 420hp V8 engine with peak torque of 400Nm. This latest information was first posted on Dutch website AutoTelegraff, including this first look at the new high-revving V8 powerplant.
m3_v8_small.jpgDerived from the potent 5.0L V10 engine used in the larger M5 and M6, the new V8 unit will displace 4.0L and produce its peak 420hp output at a lofty 8,300rpm, while maximum torque of 400Nm comes in at even higher 8,400rpm. Though this latter figure might not seem impressive, 85% of twist will come from just 2,000rpm. Yes that’s right. Thanks to the Double Vanos valve technology, the new V8 engine delivers up to 340Nm of torque from only 2,000rpm. This means the new bahn-stormer will have an almost perfectly flat torque curve and a power band stretching almost 6,500rpm. The cylinders are aligned at a 90 degree angle, and because of the use of aluminum and composite materials in its construction, the mighty motor weighs in at just 202kg.
First sales will be for the coupe model, which are expected to start in September this year, followed by the convertible, sedan and touring variants soon after. Thanks to Ferry for sending in the tip.
m3_v8_small.jpgDerived from the potent 5.0L V10 engine used in the larger M5 and M6, the new V8 unit will displace 4.0L and produce its peak 420hp output at a lofty 8,300rpm, while maximum torque of 400Nm comes in at even higher 8,400rpm. Though this latter figure might not seem impressive, 85% of twist will come from just 2,000rpm. Yes that’s right. Thanks to the Double Vanos valve technology, the new V8 engine delivers up to 340Nm of torque from only 2,000rpm. This means the new bahn-stormer will have an almost perfectly flat torque curve and a power band stretching almost 6,500rpm. The cylinders are aligned at a 90 degree angle, and because of the use of aluminum and composite materials in its construction, the mighty motor weighs in at just 202kg.
First sales will be for the coupe model, which are expected to start in September this year, followed by the convertible, sedan and touring variants soon after. Thanks to Ferry for sending in the tip.
