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CR's Most Reliable

CR Most Relaible
Most Reliable Small Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
Honda Fit (pictured)*
Toyota Yaris*
Honda Civic Hybrid*
Toyota Corolla

Least reliable (Worst score first)
Chevrolet Cobalt
2006 Nissan Sentra
Volkswagen Jetta (5 cyl.)
Chevrolet Aveo

Most Reliable Family Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
Honda Accord Hybrid (pictured)
Toyota Prius
Honda Accord (4-cyl.)
Ford Fusion*
Mercury Milan*

Least reliable
Volkswagen Passat (4 cyl.)*

Most Reliable Upscale/Large Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
Lexus ES350 (pictured)
Lincoln Zephyr*
Hyundai Azera*
Acura TSX
Acura TL

Least reliable (Worst score first)
Jaguar X-type
Chrysler 300 (V8)
Saab 9-3

Most Reliable Luxury Car
Most reliable (Best score first)
2006 Lexus LS (2007 model pictured)
Infiniti M*

Least reliable (Worst score first)
Cadillac STS (V8)
2006 Mercees-Benz S-class
Mercedes-Benz CLS*
Mercedes-Benz E-class sedan
BMW 7-series
Jaguar S-type

Most Reliable Sport/Sporty car
Most reliable (Best score first)
Lexus SC
Toyota Camry Solara (4-cyl.)
Subaru Impreza WRX
Honda S2000
Mitsubishi Eclipse*
2006 Mini Cooper hatchback

Least reliable (Worst score first)
Pontiac Solstice*
Mercedes-Benz SL
Mercedes-Benz CLK
Mercedes-Benz SLK (V6)
Chevrolet Corvette
Porshce 911 Carrera
Ford Mustang (V6)

Most Reliable Wagon/Minivan
Most reliable (Best score first)
Pontiac Vibe (pictured)
Scion xB
Toyota Matrix
Toyota Sienna

Least reliable (Worst score first)
Buick Terraza
Chevrolet Uplander
Saturn Relay
Nissan Quest

Most Reliable Small SUV
Most reliable (Best score first)
Toyota FJ Cruiser* (pictured)
Honda Element
2006 Honda CR-V
Toyota Rav4*
2006 Mitsubishi Outlander*
Subaru Forester

Least reliable
Kia Sportage

Midsized SUVs
Most reliable (Best score first)
Toyota Highlander Hybrid* (pictured)
Toyota 4Runner
Toyota Highlander
Honda Pilot
Lexus RX400h* (hybrid)
2006 Acura MDX

Least reliable (Worst score first)
Mercedes-Benz M-class*
Land Rover LR3 (V8)
Cadillac SRX (V8)
Mercedes-Benz R-class*
Volkswagen Touareg
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Hummer H3*
2006 BMW X5 (V8)
Volvo XC90 (I6 and V8)
Ford Explorer (V8)

Large SUVs
Most reliable (Best score first)
Toyota Land Cruiser
Lexus LX
Toyota Sequoia
Chevrolet Tahoe*
GMC Yukon*

Least reliable (Worst score first)
Nissan Armada
Infiniti QX56
Lincoln Navigator
Hummer H2
Mercury Mountaineer (V8)

Pickups
Most reliable (Best score first)
Subaru Baja
Toyota Tundra
Toyota Tacoma
Nissan Frontier (V6)

Least reliable (Worst score first)
Nissan Titan
Ford F-250 (diesel)
Dodge Dakota (4WD)
2006 Cadillac Escalade EXT

I'm kind of surprised the ES350 tops its class despite all the transmission issues we've been hearing about at CL. I can only guess that all the other cars have worse issues.

MB is again at the bottom of luxury cars, along with the 7-series. What's new anyway?

Consumer Reports seems like they really heart hybrids.

Lots of Mercedes on the wrong side of the scale, doesn't surprise me at all, mine was a joke.

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Originally Posted by XeroK00L (Post 2231529)

I'm kind of surprised the ES350 tops its class despite all the transmission issues we've been hearing about at CL. I can only guess that all the other cars have worse issues.

I guess that is what kept the Camry off the list ...?

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Originally Posted by XeroK00L (Post 2231529)

I am wondering what's the age of the cars they surveyed for this list, it can't be about long term reliability, since the ES350 is out for only a few months.

I didn't know CR has a initial quality survey(first 90 days like JDPower) ? Or is it just a mistake that they listed the ES350 ? If it's the ES300/330, then there's no surprise the ES is the most reliable in it's class.

Anyone know what the * refers to?

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Originally Posted by 92 SC400 (Post 2231630)

Anyone know what the * refers to?

*Predicted reliability based on only one model year.

Which also leads me to believe that they meant the ES 330 since the ES350 does not have an * like the other new cars.

No suprises there. SC up top again.

I do disagree with the Ford Fusion. Perhaps it's just my example as it is a typical Ford. Mine has been nothing but problems. 2006, in the shop 7 times, needs to go back again for the A/C compressor ,suspension clunks, and charging issues. Prior issues, transmission, bumpers loose, A/C system leaked, radio, door speakers, software update, interior door handle, and some other items I cannot think of right now. I picked it up in Oct 06. :thumbdn:

I'm not too surprised that Toyota/Honda tops the list...i'm also not too surprised that MBZ and BMW is on the other side of it.

No surprises, which is good for the winners and bad for the losers...

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Originally Posted by XeroK00L (Post 2231529)

people overreact at falling quality and forget that other cars in the same class have a hell of a lot more problems

Consumer Reports latest Reliability Rankings

Five Lexus models (LS, LX, SC, ES, and RX) were named in the top of their class in terms of reliability based on Consumer Reports latest rankings.

Among the cars listed as "Worst Reliability" included: :thumbdn:
-BMW X5
-BMW 7-Series
-Mercedes M, R, and E Classes
-'06 Mercedes S-Class
-Mercedes SL, SLK, CLK, and CLS

IMO if I owned a Mercedes Benz, especially if it is listed above, I would feel royally ripped off. :egads:

Lexus has shown that it continues to lead the way in Reliability. :thumbup: :woot: :woohoo:

Go here to see the lists: http://money.cnn.com/popups/2006/aut...ble/index.html

Sorry for starting the new thread after it had already been started. I must have glanced over it:egads:

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Originally Posted by Buds (Post 2232408)

yikes... look at those MB's and BMW's, looking at some posts on these forums, I would think they have less problems than Lexus... all lies I say!!! :-)