Lexus vs. German Premium Brands
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Originally Posted by doug_999
No, the 2002 745 - far ahead of even the 2006 LS430.
Even the 1997 540 had more technology than the 2004 GS430 (rain sensing wipers, one turn ignition, etc, etc.).
So much of this technology goes un-noticed - yet it is cool (and highly troublesome). The 745 has 128 different motors as one example.
Even the 1997 540 had more technology than the 2004 GS430 (rain sensing wipers, one turn ignition, etc, etc.).
So much of this technology goes un-noticed - yet it is cool (and highly troublesome). The 745 has 128 different motors as one example.
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Let's see....
MP3 Playback
Active suspension (rollbars)
Residual heat circulation (I think most BMWs have this - most cool in the cold weather climates)
Steering wheel controls (real ones too!)
Leather steering wheel
Standard bluetooth
High beam HID
Headlight cleaners (not that they do much but they have them)
Front parking sensors
and there are so many more.
Let's be serious here, the 745/750 costs a lot more - and there are a bunch of other little do-dads that most of us will never know about. But this stuff turns the Europeans on and thus the point of the article.
I can go on here (like how I can adjust the seat heating on my 550 to put more heat to the back or butt depending on the mood), but it really doesn't matter. The stuff is cool and it breaks a lot - end of story.
MP3 Playback
Active suspension (rollbars)
Residual heat circulation (I think most BMWs have this - most cool in the cold weather climates)
Steering wheel controls (real ones too!)
Leather steering wheel
Standard bluetooth
High beam HID
Headlight cleaners (not that they do much but they have them)
Front parking sensors
and there are so many more.
Let's be serious here, the 745/750 costs a lot more - and there are a bunch of other little do-dads that most of us will never know about. But this stuff turns the Europeans on and thus the point of the article.
I can go on here (like how I can adjust the seat heating on my 550 to put more heat to the back or butt depending on the mood), but it really doesn't matter. The stuff is cool and it breaks a lot - end of story.
Last edited by doug_999; Jun 18, 2006 at 06:31 AM.
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Another problem I think Lexus might have is that almost everyone in Europe drives stick, but I don't think Lexus makes a lot of manual models. They do have that IS220 for foreign markets, but mostly, they are luxury cars, and for US buyers (historically Lexus' primary focus), that means automatic 100% of the time. When I did a semester abroad in France, the mother in my host family told me that automatics are for cripples and old people. She drove a manual minivan - no joke. I think it was a Toyota or Nissan.
Originally Posted by doug_999
and you are missing the point.... The point of the initial article is that the Germans LOVE this stuff - reliability is second, innovation is first.
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
whats the point of something being really new and innovative when it can malfunction at any moment
Last edited by doug_999; Jun 18, 2006 at 07:32 AM.
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