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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Incendiary
But they don't look the same...
They don't look EXACTLY the same, as MB would never be that shameless, but they look close enough. In terms of general shape, they look the same, and the general shape of the ES's headlights is quite often bashed.





The headlight elements inside are quite similar, only the shape of the headlight itself is slight different than the ES's.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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those headlights are similar? please..... they are made of projectors, turn signals, high beams, glasses/plastics.... that's really similar
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Old May 11, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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Same post re: Celica applies to the ES. See your point, still disagree...
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Old May 12, 2005 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TRDFantasy
They don't look EXACTLY the same, as MB would never be that shameless, but they look close enough. In terms of general shape, they look the same, and the general shape of the ES's headlights is quite often bashed.

The headlight elements inside are quite similar, only the shape of the headlight itself is slight different than the ES's.
There's an even closer resemblance between the Solara & the CLS, comparison pics of the 2 has been posted twice here before.

BTW, I do not like the front of the CLS & it's side profile at all, both in pics & in person
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Nervousness in Stuttgart: Calculated the most important model weakening ELT. The e-class , so far subscribed on front places in the permission statistics , fell dramatically. Much too early Mercedes Benz thereby must do without much money, which actually should have brought its volume model in. The large Facelift next year is to turn around driving downhill, but the completely new generation W 212 for the natives of stuttgart, which starts 2009, is still more important.

It must start error free, in the quality convince and may not also the smallest loss afford. Therefore everything comes on the test stand, which a shade on Stuttgart star could throw. Electronic Spielereien just like redundant Gimmicks. First victim of this strategy is the SBC brake, which provided in the current model for much annoyance. Thus in the new e-class again conventionally one brakes - however with electronic support.

But of it the viewer sees to naturally nothing. It is to be inspired only once for the form. And there Mercedes Benz shows new courage our exclusive computer photos documents the new indications of the time. The fifth generation of the e-class works more representatively, more modern, more self-confidently. Although similarities with the current Lexus collection are not to be surveyed, the Mercedes Benz designers created a to a large extent independent alignment, which points from the conservative-baroque present into an sporty-elegant future.

In contrast to C - and s-class , which remains faithful both for the one-piece headlights, gets the e-class a completely new four-eye face with angular pupils, Bi-xenon lamps, bending light and curve headlights. Similarly to the s-class also the W 212 profits from the new night vision technology on laser basis. Likewise by the large brother is taken over the passenger protective system Pre pre-Safe , which tightens belts automatically in an emergency, closes windows and the safest seating position selects. In addition when desired the brake assistant associates plus. It uses the longitudinal control Distronic and an additional nahbereichsradar, in order to increase with to scarce distance the braking power aid preventively.

A condition for the Fahrerassistenzsysteme is an interlaced sensor technology from laser and radar jets, which develop an invisible 360-Grad-Schutzschild around the car. It concerns also to recognize and warn with threatening danger the position of other vehicles or react.

The first step to the active steering element interference is the stabilizing parameter steering element. It compensates cross-wind, longitudinal gutters, aquaplaning and in a further step deviating from given lanes. In preparation are beyond that an early warning system against second sleep, a fully automatic a park pilot and a digital road sign recognition, which make with Nichtbeachten optically or acoustically

The cockpit of the e-class takes over above all the Comand system of the s-class. The newest version consists of a larger monitor and of a mouse with integrated keyboard, which is accommodated between the seats. In contrast to iDrive of BMW can be called up substantial functions by depressing the key directly.

The wheel suspension possesses perfectly new kinetics, but is to be just as little shaken at the decoupled four-steering wheel front axle as at the multi-steering wheel rear axle. Still the customer between stahlfederung, pneumatic cushioning and the hydraulic chassis regulation Active Body control (ABC ) can select. In the work statement brake disks from bonding material, which are manufactured in larger series, offered for favourable prices, are new.

As alternative to the standard drive Mercedes Benz wants to equip nearly all six and eight-cylinder models against surcharge with the all-wheel drive 4Matic. The third 4x4-Generation is not only friction-reduced and easier, but also to a large extent freely of perturbative forces in the steering element. In addition the torque is to be variable distributed within an exactly range not fixed yet between the axles. The traction optimizes and defuses the self-guidance behavior in critical situations.

With the engines the six cylinder is completely clear the volume-strongest aggregate. The four-cylinder makes for certain markets (developing countries, south Europe) and still for certain targeted applications (taxi) sense, is however possibly obligation-coupled with the filter course mechanism. If it survives, then as 1,8-Liter compressor with approximately 180 HP and as 2,2-Liter-Diesel with 177 HP - both with direkteinspritzung.

The remaining motorizing might look in such a way: • E 250, 2,5-l-V6 DI, 214 HP • E 300, 3,0-l-V6 DI, 243 HP • E 350, 3,5-l-V6 DI, 272 HP • E 400, 4,0-l-V8 DI, 320 HP • E 550, 5,5-l-V8 DI, 388 HP • E 63 AMG , 6,3-l-V8, 571 HP • E 280 CDI , 3,0-l-V6, 204 HP • E 300 CDI, 3,0-l-V6, 225 HP • E 350 CDI, 3,0-l-V6 with register loading, 313 HP • E 400 CDI, 4,0-l-V8, 354 HP.

Diesel characteristic numbers stand and fall with the HP politics of the competition. Here it concerns in the future however not only achievement and torque, but also low emissions. Therefore Mercedes Benz will probably equip the new e-class beside the particle filter with urea injection SCR (the additive is refilled with each service). Which does not help the e-class compellingly back to the point, but will do to the environment completely surely well.

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Old May 12, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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Still looks terrible. And those taillights! My eyes!

I hate web-translated pages/articles. They're always barely understandable...
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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that's a honda Accord...just look at the @$$
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AmethySC
MB's image will be DESTROYED if that is what the rear of the next E looks like--a bad, horrible copy of the Accord and the new Sonata (and perhaps the '00-'01 ES300?).


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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
MB's image will be DESTROYED if that is what the rear of the next E looks like--a bad, horrible copy of the Accord and the new Sonata (and perhaps the '00-'01 ES300?).
I don't find the overall shape of the trunk so bad as I do the look of the taillights. Blech!
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by XeroK00L
MB's image will be DESTROYED if that is what the rear of the next E looks like--a bad, horrible copy of the Accord and the new Sonata (and perhaps the '00-'01 ES300?).
Well, maybe, maybe not - see VVT-i's post previous page, it's still a Benz & some people will still buy it & think it's nice.

I agree that rear end is blah
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:15 AM
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What's up with the taillights??? They look so cheap and remind me of alot of older cheaper cars. Did MB hire Chris Bangles? Btw, It does look like the current E-class. It seems to have the right dimensions. Maybe this is what the mid-life refresh will look like?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AmethySC
The cockpit of the e-class takes over above all the Comand system of the s-class. The newest version consists of a larger monitor and of a mouse with integrated keyboard, which is accommodated between the seats. In contrast to iDrive of BMW can be called up substantial functions by depressing the key directly.
So instead of a single i-Drive joystick/**** that's already enough of a nuisance, the driver will be having to control both A MOUSE AND A KEYBOARD while driving. Just brilliant. Why didn't anybody else think of that?

I'm so glad Lexus is sticking to the touch screen techonology.

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Old May 12, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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Old May 12, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Good finds.

This one looks like a short current-gen S-Class:
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This one hints at the SLR, not bad at all:
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This one looks like a short next-gen S-Class (a.k.a. mini-Maybach):
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Just too many vastly different renderings here to make any of them trustworthy or meaningful anymore.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Incendiary
But they don't look the same...
Please read post#7 by TRD and post#21 by reggiek. I was trying to explaine to reggiek of what TRD was saying. I've never say or agree how the new MB look like this or look like that.

We can't judge the car by the way its headlights or tail lights and make the conclusion that car A look like car B because of the headlights or the tail lights. One designer may have some influence from another car that he loves from the past and applied that influrence to the car he's designing.

I think the future cars design will look more and more like one other one way or another.
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