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Great entertainment from the Hagerty team as usual. However Camissa isnt selling cars and number paint a different story
Used car buyers cream their pants and throw ridick sums of money at an opportunity to get behind a used 100/200 with this level of performance all day. They then add in kit like power systems, lifts etc. The LC250 buyer gets a lot of the bones right out the gate, aftermarket mfg support, and all brand new and a warranty. The prado really nailed what works for these buyers.
If this was going after the raptor crowd or trx crowd, yes i'd agree with you on how lacking these specs are, but the overland crowd is way different. I dont see any competitor also in this space to worthy a response from Toyota, besides the GX, but thats what a 6.5 sec truck?
The 100/200 is a far better vehicle in more ways than just the engine. It's not comparable at all
The 100/200 is a far better vehicle in more ways than just the engine. It's not comparable at all
I agree that 100/200 are a different type of vehicle, feel overbuilt and lasting. The 250 is a prado, and the not the full 300. However customers dont seem to mind. They have embraced the 250 as a chance to become part of the LC Family and make it their own from mile 0.
Plus without any v35 issues, the powertrain seems to be gearing up to be a workhorse worthy of longevity associated with Toyota.
It’s not. 326hp and 468lbs of torque. I had no issues around town and I’m not racing it.
You know what’s anemic. A V-6 with less than 300hp in 2026
I understand about the power, but 4 cylinders are anemic by nature, you can overclock them with hybrids and turbos, but then they are stressed out and still nasty to drive.
Boggles my mind, people spend all this money on an expensive car, and then drive on worn out tires to the point that the luxury car is riding like a broken beater crapbucket.
Boggles my mind, people spend all this money on an expensive car, and then drive on worn out tires to the point that the luxury car is riding like a broken beater crapbucket.
That is more likely in states that don't have Annual Safety-Inspection laws. My own state of Virginia, for example, does...Maryland, next door, does not...except when a vehicle is bought or sold, and the title changes hands.
That is more likely in states that don't have Annual Safety-Inspection laws. My own state of Virginia, for example, does...Maryland, next door, does not...except when a vehicle is bought or sold, and the title changes hands.
NY requires an inspection, but most shops don't care, as long as there is no CEL the diagnostics computer will pass and they will give you the sticker without even looking at the mechanical condition of the car. But I was talking about the owners of these expensive cars, I understand when someone in an old beater can't afford a set of new tires, but to drive an expensive Range Rover on a set of tires so worn out is atrocious.
Yes.....the CPO label is not always what it is cracked up to be. Some of it is more marketing than fact. In general, however, they are (usually) in better shape than non-CPO's, but, as you noted, there are definitely exceptions. I have seen CPOs with evidence of accident-damage under the hood. Just one more reason why, like you, I'm a believer in buying new, despite the depreciation-effect of the first few years.
NY requires an inspection, but most shops don't care, as long as there is no CEL the diagnostics computer will pass and they will give you the sticker without even looking at the mechanical condition of the car. But I was talking about the owners of these expensive cars, I understand when someone in an old beater can't afford a set of new tires, but to drive an expensive Range Rover on a set of tires so worn out is atrocious.
Yes, agreed. Six-figures for a RR, and one cannot afford a set of tires?
That's like showing up to a lavish event in a brand-new Tuxedo and a set of worn-out sandals LOL.
That is more likely in states that don't have Annual Safety-Inspection laws. My own state of Virginia, for example, does...Maryland, next door, does not...except when a vehicle is bought or sold, and the title changes hands.
This was in VA, car had a VA inspection sticker right in the windshield.
Originally Posted by swajames
There is no way that car was going to be sold with those tires in that condition. Chances are the CPO process was incomplete.
It was fully PDId with all the stickers on it and sitting right on the lot with all the other cars. Detailed, and that tire is dresssed! That should have been done before it was ever put out for sale.
No, it’s a brand of dealer applied paint protection BS
Originally Posted by Och
Boggles my mind, people spend all this money on an expensive car, and then drive on worn out tires to the point that the luxury car is riding like a broken beater crapbucket.
Oh I know. The guy was probably like “my lease is up I’m not buying tires”. Forget the fact that those tires might kill him!
